Physical Resurrection of the Body?

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Recently, I saw a story about the physical resurrection of the body. It quotes both the The Nicene Creed: “We look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.” and the Apostles’ Creed: professing a belief in “the* resurrection of the body*.”

As a cradle Catholic, I was wondering if we are to believe in a physical resurrection, or merely spiritual resurrection. I have always thought, and been taught, that it was merely a spiritual one- not physical.

The poll in the story stated that *only * 36 percent of the 1,007 adults interviewed by the Scripps Survey Research Center at Ohio University said “yes” to the question: “Do you believe that, after you die, your physical body will be resurrected someday?” Fifty-four percent said they do not believe and 10 percent were undecided.

They quoted a bunch of protestant ministers on the issue, who stated that the lack of faith was disturbing.

But I was wondering what the Catholic stance on resurrection may be. Actual Physical, or Spiritual?

Thanks-
 
It’s both physical and spiritual because human beings aren’t just spirit and we aren’t just bodies, we are persons who are composed, indissolubly of both, which is why death is an aberration and a curse. Here’s what the Catechism says about it: Ressurection of the Dead.
 
To my (limited?) knowledge, we await the resurrection of the physical body to a glorified body. The first Christian human to experience this would’ve been the Blessed Virgin Mary.

We await the same thing that Jesus and Mary experienced. You notice that there are no physical remains to be found of either. That’s because their bodies (physical) ascended (Jesus on His own because He is God) and were assumed (Mary, by the power of God) into heaven. They now have golirified bodies.
 
John 20:26-27:
A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”
 
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As a cradle Catholic, I was wondering if we are to believe in a physical resurrection …
Belief that the members of the Church Triumphant will receive glorified physical bodies at the Resurrection of the Dead is a de fide belief that all faithful Catholics must accept.
 
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gmmartin42:
But I was wondering what the Catholic stance on resurrection may be. Actual Physical, or Spiritual?
How can it be “of the body” if it’s not physical?

And every single line of the creed is explored in depth in the Catechism. I highly recommend you read it.
The term “flesh” refers to man in his state of weakness and mortality. The “resurrection of the flesh” (the literal formulation of the Apostles’ Creed) means not only that the immortal soul will live on after death, but that even our “mortal body” will come to life again.
Catechism of the Catholic Church
 
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gmmartin42:
But I was wondering what the Catholic stance on resurrection may be. Actual Physical, or Spiritual?
Yes, it is a literal, physical, bodily resurrection.

christusrex.org/www1/CDHN/art11.html#RESURRECTION

997 What is “rising”? In death, the separation of the soul from the body, the human body decays and the soul goes to meet God, while awaiting its reunion with its glorified body. *God, in his almighty power, will definitively grant incorruptible life to our bodies by reuniting them with our souls, through the power of Jesus’ Resurrection. *
 
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gmmartin42:
I have always thought, and been taught, that it was merely a spiritual one- not physical.
As an aside, who taught you this? Catholic teaching is quite clear that it is a literal, physical resurrection of the body.
 
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gmmartin42:
Recently, I saw a story about the physical resurrection of the body. It quotes both the The Nicene Creed: “We look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.” and the Apostles’ Creed: professing a belief in “the* resurrection of the body*.”

As a cradle Catholic, I was wondering if we are to believe in a physical resurrection, or merely spiritual resurrection. I have always thought, and been taught, that it was merely a spiritual one- not physical.

The poll in the story stated that *only *36 percent of the 1,007 adults interviewed by the Scripps Survey Research Center at Ohio University said “yes” to the question: “Do you believe that, after you die, your physical body will be resurrected someday?” Fifty-four percent said they do not believe and 10 percent were undecided.

They quoted a bunch of protestant ministers on the issue, who stated that the lack of faith was disturbing.

But I was wondering what the Catholic stance on resurrection may be. Actual Physical, or Spiritual?

Thanks-

There is an ambiguity in the word “physical” 🙂

It can be used to mean either:
  • solid, able to be touched, bulky, taking up space
or
  • according to the physis, the nature, of a thing
A cat is physical in the first sense - if a cat is on a bed, one can’t sit down where the cat is, because that space is occupied by the bulk of the cat, which is a tangible animal endowed with a body

In the second sense, a cat has the physis, the nature, of a cat - which is what makes it a cat in the first place; rather than a dog, say. Because it has that particular nature, it acts in accordance with it as the cat that it is. Its nature, is known by its acts - not directly. All cats share a common cathood - & that cathood can be known only through specific cats; through this tabby, or that Siamese.

The Resurrection body will be in accord with our nature as human beings - it will be a genuinely human body: so, not a ghost, any more than the Risen Christ was a ghost. We are not ghosts, nor shall we be. Della’s post explained that, so there is no need to repeat what she said.

As to the relation of the resurrected human body to space, it won’t be quite the same as now; it seems there will be continuity between the bodies we have now, and those we hope to have then - what that continuity will be guaranteed by, is one of the unknowns: we are, after all, discussing something that is ultimately mysterious, something that God has kept to Himself.

In His Glorious Resurrected Body, Jesus ate with His disciples. He also vanished from the sight of His disciples at Emmaus. So His Body did occupy space, and could receive food - yet it could also pass through a locked door. It is like the present body, yet also unlike. It was physical in the first sense discussed: it could be touched, as well as seen and heard - but was not related to space in the same way as ours are now. The human nature of Christ was His human nature still, but it had been transformed. And it is Resurrection in the body - not of the soul alone. The soul needs no resurrection: only a body does.

There are hints of this glorified body in the OT - Moses’ face shone when he came down from the mountain, and the people were afraid. It shone because he had been speaking with God; so he wore a veil over it. Moses is seen again at the Transfiguration, which was a foretaste of the glorification of Christ.

In the Church, we have some of the results of the glorification of Christ, in the lives of those holy people whose bodies have done unusual things such as disregard the laws of gravity; or who have read the consciences of others, or known of events distant in time or space without human help. The lesson seems to be that, to be very close to God, is to be changed by Him, to become like Him. And what this means in practice, is shown us in the Glorification of Christ, which is the beginning of our own. (Which is possibly why He ascended into Heaven - that was a further stage in His Glorification, which is not yet complete, but will be fulfilled on the Last Day.)
 
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gmmartin42:
Recently, I saw a story about the physical resurrection of the body. It quotes both the The Nicene Creed: “We look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.” and the Apostles’ Creed: professing a belief in “the* resurrection of the body*.”

As a cradle Catholic, I was wondering if we are to believe in a physical resurrection, or merely spiritual resurrection. I have always thought, and been taught, that it was merely a spiritual one- not physical.

The poll in the story stated that *only * 36 percent of the 1,007 adults interviewed by the Scripps Survey Research Center at Ohio University said “yes” to the question: “Do you believe that, after you die, your physical body will be resurrected someday?” Fifty-four percent said they do not believe and 10 percent were undecided.

They quoted a bunch of protestant ministers on the issue, who stated that the lack of faith was disturbing.

But I was wondering what the Catholic stance on resurrection may be. Actual Physical, or Spiritual?

Thanks-
This blows me away. Who taught you that the resurrection was “just spiritual”? That’s not Christianity–it’s Gnosticism.

You guys can boast of your Magisterium all you like, but when something as basic as this doesn’t make it down to people in the pews, you have a serious problem.

That being said, I’d agree on the whole with Gottle of Geer’s qualifications.

Edwin
 
It is also why we do not believe in reincarnation. Imagine a soul trying to decide which body to re-unite with :rotfl:
 
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Contarini:
You guys can boast of your Magisterium all you like, but when something as basic as this doesn’t make it down to people in the pews, you have a serious problem.

Edwin
It makes it to the pews…it’s just that it doesn’t always get received properly.

Our magesterium has always taught the truth to all people.
People, however, either ‘get it’ or don’t. It’s just human nature to not fully comprehend things how and when they’re handed down.

Think about mathematics…from kindergarten on we’re instructed the truth that 1+1 = 2 but along the way we’re then taught to think outside the box to begin to understand the concepts behind why 1 + 1 = 2. Usually that’s the time confusion sets in.

We can be taught from crawling on that we rise from the dead body and soul…and we accept it at first for quite a while - not giving it much thought along the way…until…

something happens…either someone we love actually dies and we begin to ponder whether or not we’ll really be reunited with them some day…and if so, in what form. Or we hear other people talk about resurrection or reincarnation and that begins to get us to question what we had accepted on face value all along.

The truth did not change, but our perception of it did…which leads to questions and leads us to seek answers from the wrong sources which then leads many of us astray…we begin rejecting the truth because logic and reason and science and evidence no longer support it (especially those matters which are rooted in faith).

So, don’t blame the magesterium for the problem of people not ‘knowing’ the basics. That’s the devil’s work - gnawing away with reason and logic and the illusion that man can even comprehend much of these truths.

Besides, the Truth is not only deposited from the top down in our Church…we on the base level are responsible for disseminating the Truth horizontally and vertically. The magesterium can teach truth from Rome, but if my mom and dad teach me a distortion of that truth from my neck of the woods, that’s not the magesterium’s fault. Fortunately, for us, the Magesterium remains steadfast with the Truth and continually speaks the Truth through a variety of ways so that once I grew up I was able to discover the Truth from those around me and from Rome. This is why I’ve come to value the Magesterium so much…she protects, preserves and professes Christ’s Truth…no more, no less, and for all time. She is our beacon in this life, the very beacon Christ established for just such purpose.
 
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