Pick your own host?

[Phemie]

When do the hosts placed in the tabernacle get consecrated then? There isn’t a reason to place non-consecrated hosts in the tabernacle as they remain just hosts.

What she means is that they receive Communion from the consecrated Hosts reposed in the Tabernacle. In parishes where hosts aren’t carefully counted you can end up with 200-300 consecrated Hosts in the Tabernacle. They have to be used so Fr. only consecrates his own Host and distributes Communion from those previously consecrated.

 

[Horton]

What she means is that they receive Communion from the consecrated Hosts reposed in the Tabernacle. In parishes where hosts aren’t carefully counted you can end up with 200-300 consecrated Hosts in the Tabernacle. They have to be used so Fr. only consecrates his own Host and distributes Communion from those previously consecrated.

I understand that. She is saying the priest only consecrates one host at Mass. At some point the priest has to consecrate all the hosts so my question is when does the priest consecrate the hosts that have been placed in the tabernacle. My understanding is it can only be done during a Mass

 

[pianistclare]

I understand that. She is saying the priest only consecrates one host at Mass. At some point the priest has to consecrate all the hosts so my question is when does the priest consecrate the hosts that have been placed in the tabernacle. My understanding is it can only be done during a Mass

They were the OVERAGES from a previous Mass.

 

[TimothyH]

Yup. My parish is the only one in years that doesn’t do this. Our Deacons eyeball the crowd and pretty much know how many handfuls to use.

You know you are in the south when… How many fingers of wine do you use?

Seriously, what brand hosts do you use? Ours come stacked neatly in sleeves and the sacristan pours them from the sleeve into the breadbowl or ciboria.

We use tongs for the larger hosts. I’ll see if I can get some pictures.

-Tim-

 

[pianistclare]

You know you are in the south when… How many fingers of wine do you use?

Seriously, what brand hosts do you use? Ours come stacked neatly in sleeves and the sacristan pours them from the sleeve into the breadbowl or ciboria.

We use tongs for the larger hosts. I’ll see if I can get some pictures.

-Tim-

I’ll walk up to the working Sacristy and look. The large ones are beautifully stamped with beautiful artwork. A large cross.

Here it is: St. Michael Altar Bread of Holland

mvchurchgoods.com/bread.lasso?id=bread&label=bread

The Mass hosts are lovely
mvchurchgoods.com/listing.lasso?id=stMichael&label=bread

The containers say “Made with fine pure wheat and pure water only”.

You might be using the ones from the Sisters of the Visitation in North Georgia, maybe?

The very few low gluten hosts we need we buy from a nearby parish that gets them in large quantities. They sell us what we need in 3 month increments.

 

[Horton]

They were the OVERAGES from a previous Mass.

I understand in most parishes OVERAGES are used in the next Mass. My question once again is…if the priest consecrates ONE host during Mass when are the hosts in the tabernacle consecrated? Is it only the ONE host brought up with the gifts?

In our parish the priest holds up the large host and the ciborium with smaller hosts during the consecration which is how it’s been in every Mass I’ve been to.

 

[Deo_Gratias42]

It’s not a bad idea but you need 100% cooperation for it and what are the odds you’ll get that when you have 500 or even 100 or so in attendance?

I’ve never seen it done at large Masses, just small congregations.

 

[paperwight66]

I understand in most parishes OVERAGES are used in the next Mass. My question once again is…if the priest consecrates ONE host during Mass when are the hosts in the tabernacle consecrated? Is it only the ONE host brought up with the gifts?

In our parish the priest holds up the large host and the ciborium with smaller hosts during the consecration which is how it’s been in every Mass I’ve been to.

I don’t understand your confusion. The hosts in the Tabernacle were those left over from previous Mass. At that previous Mass they had been consecrated. They don’t lose their consecration by being put in the tabernacle. They don’t have to be consecrated again before they can be used in Holy Communion. If they weren’t consecrated, they wouldn’t be in the tabernacle anyway. It’s not just a cupboard.

 

[Horton]

Now we have a new priest and he only consecrates one host and the rest are taken from the Tabernacle unless I am not paying attention and once again things have changed.

Are you sure? The consecration of the Hosts must be done during the Mass. So either there are extras from another Mass reserved in the Tabernacle or maybe you missed the others sitting on the alter waiting to be consecrated?

No, Father only consecrated one. The attenders received hosts from the ciborium. I actually asked on this forum if this was okay because it surprised me. We had twenty attenders at the early morning Mass. The Daily Mass is later now, the chapel is packed, and I don’t attend as frequently so I am not sure if he is still doing this.

I don’t understand your confusion. The hosts in the Tabernacle were those left over from previous Mass. At that previous Mass they had been consecrated. They don’t lose their consecration by being put in the tabernacle. They don’t have to be consecrated again before they can be used in Holy Communion. If they weren’t consecrated, they wouldn’t be in the tabernacle anyway. It’s not just a cupboard.

I’m not confused about what the consecrated hosts are or where & how Jesus is to be kept safe. I know the tabernacle is not just a cupboard. I’ve been a sacristan and have been on our RCIA team since my conversion. Believe me, I get it. I’m seeking clarification from MSSheBear.

MSSheBear very specifically states the priest consecrates ONE host and takes the rest from the tabernacle. (see bolding above) I KNOW those in the tabernacle are consecrated. My question for MSSheBear is, if the priest only consecrates ONE host, when are the others hosts used during that Mass consecrated?

 

[pianistclare]

I’m not confused about what the consecrated hosts are or where & how Jesus is to be kept safe. I know the tabernacle is not just a cupboard. I’ve been a sacristan and have been on our RCIA team since my conversion. Believe me, I get it. I’m seeking clarification from MSSheBear.

MSSheBear very specifically states the priest consecrates ONE host and takes the rest from the tabernacle. (see bolding above) I KNOW those in the tabernacle are consecrated. My question for MSSheBear is, if the priest only consecrates ONE host, when are the others hosts used during that Mass consecrated?

The priest walks over to the Tabernacle during the Lamb of God and distributes the previously consecrated, reserved, hosts. This is how it is done in Ireland as well.
Yes, the lone unconsecrated host is brought up during offertory with the wine and the collection.

 

[Horton]

The priest walks over to the Tabernacle during the Lamb of God and distributes the previously consecrated, reserved, hosts. This is how it is done in Ireland as well.
Yes, the lone unconsecrated host is brought up during offertory with the wine and the collection.

I’m not stupid, I been to Mass, I know what the tabernacle is for and that someone must walk to it, insert the key, open it, remove the previously consecrated hosts.

Forget about it. It’s not all that important anyway

 

[pianistclare]

I’m not stupid, I been to Mass, I know what the tabernacle is for and that someone must walk to it, insert the key, open it, remove the previously consecrated hosts.

Forget about it. It’s not all that important anyway

I can’t imagine what your question is then. ???

 

[babochka]

I can’t imagine what your question is then. ???

If the priest only consecrates one host at each Mass, when did the consecration occur for the hosts that are retrieved from the tabernacle? I actually wondered the same thing.

 

[stinkcat_14]

It’s not a bad idea but you need 100% cooperation for it and what are the odds you’ll get that when you have 500 or even 100 or so in attendance?

The places where I have seen it done have been smaller parishes in smaller communities. I don’t think this would work very well in some of the larger churches in places like Chicago.

 

[Elizium23]

If the priest only consecrates one host at each Mass, when did the consecration occur for the hosts that are retrieved from the tabernacle? I actually wondered the same thing.

Because there was at least one Mass in the recent past when the priest consecrated a whole bunch of hosts and reserved them in the tabernacle.

MSSheBear never said anything about “one host at each and every Mass” which seems to be what you all are reading here.

 

[Evan]

If the priest only consecrates one host at each Mass, when did the consecration occur for the hosts that are retrieved from the tabernacle? I actually wondered the same thing.

The hosts in the tabernacle were consecrated at previous masses. The requirement for a mass is that at least 1 host be consecrated and some watered wine.

For the distribution of communion, the only requirement is that the hosts be consecrated, at this or any other mass.

Also the hosts in the tabernacle must be kept fresh by a constant turnover of removing and distributing hosts from the tabernacle and reserving freshly consecrated hosts.

Another item to remember is, theologically, there is only one mass and we continue to re-encounter this one action by Christ - at the last supper - at the crucifixion - at the mass or divine liturgy anywhere in time/space. It is always the same mass. So… when were the other hosts consecrated? At Mass, the only one, this mass.

 

[babochka]

The hosts in the tabernacle were consecrated at previous masses. The requirement for a mass is that at least 1 host be consecrated and some watered wine.

For the distribution of communion, the only requirement is that the hosts be consecrated, at this or any other mass.

Also the hosts in the tabernacle must be kept fresh by a constant turnover of removing and distributing hosts from the tabernacle and reserving freshly consecrated hosts.

Another item to remember is, theologically, there is only one mass and we continue to re-encounter this one action by Christ - at the last supper - at the crucifixion - at the mass or divine liturgy anywhere in time/space. It is always the same mass. So… when were the other hosts consecrated? At Mass, the only one, this mass.

You’re mistaking the question for a theological question and way over-thinking it. It is a practical question. If the regular practice of a parish is to only consecrate one host at any given Mass, then there would not generally be an abundance of hosts in the tabernacle. If this is an unusual practice, or only done at weekday Masses, or some other circumstances in which only a few are present, then the answer is obvious - it is the hosts that were consecrated on Sunday. At least one post, however, gave me the impression that this was a regular practice. Reading back and finding the original post that mentioned this practice, though, it was clear that this was an occasional practice for a special circumstance.

 

[pianistclare]

If the priest only consecrates one host at each Mass, when did the consecration occur for the hosts that are retrieved from the tabernacle? I actually wondered the same thing.

OK. One more time.
They are overages that were consecrated at a prior Mass. Which Mass exactly? Ask the priest.
Sometimes we expect a lot of people on a Sunday and many are out of town. This means we may have 100 consecrated hosts left over, unconsumed. That would be enough for a small Sunday Mass or a few weekday Masses.

 

[z_0101]

He must consecrate ONE. At daily Mass in our parish he only consecrates the large celebrant host. He gives Communion from the Hosts in the Tabernacle.

Many fewer people came to Good Friday service than we had expected so we ended up having way too many Hosts in the Tabernacle. Fr. only consecrated the celebrant’s host for a few Masses after that.

You are right in that only one host need be consecrated, and that host fractionated for as many of the entire congregation as reasonably possible as the celebrant cannot then deny the congregation communion during the Mass, such a denial would most likely be a violation of Canon 838.1 (Vatican.va) and the subsequent sections as well as the GIRM (Ch6 USCCB.org). Therefor, I suspect that the other hosts reserved in the tabernacle were previously consecrated at the alter during another Mass - that is the only way the hosts may be licitly consecrated. This isn’t something I’ve made up, this comes directly from the Canon 972 (Vatican.va). This is more fully explained here: Cannon Law and Consecrating the Host (CannonLawMadeEasy.Com)

 

[z_0101]

I’ll walk up to the working Sacristy and look. The large ones are beautifully stamped with beautiful artwork. A large cross.

The large Mass Host we use isn’t nearly that pretty; it is however scored many, many, times - IRK, Father could break it along those marks a couple of dozen times. I’ll have to take a closer look the next time I am helping the Deacons setup for Mass. Our small hosts are very plan with just a very simple cross in the center.
Unfortunately not GF… we have a few parishioners that Father gives them communion from his Chalice if both species are not being offered. Awkward, but better than having them sick from the gluten… I do have one friend that has gluten issues and consumes the host… such faith that no ill effects have ever occurred! (I’d like an ounce of that faith )