Pictures of the Pauline Mass

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This bears similarities to the Pauline mass:
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It may APPEAR to have similarities to the Pauline Mass, but it is only an artists’ interpretation. When my family sits down for Thanksgiving dinner, we sit all around the table, we dont huddle around the one carving the bird. Perhaps, if it were a photo opportunity, we would, but then we would return to our seats…
 
I believe Pius X was intending to be sarcastic. I think he could have done better than a great work of art that depicts the Last Supper. Perhaps something by Hieronymus Bosch?
 
I was not being sarcastic. I could not find a good pic of the Last Supper online that wasn’t too big.
Why wouldn’t I want to go down this road? Both masses are the unbloody renewal of what hapened on Good Friday. Why shouldn’t they both have a thread?
 
Pius X:
I was not being sarcastic. I could not find a good pic of the Last Supper online that wasn’t too big.
Why wouldn’t I want to go down this road? Both masses are the unbloody renewal of what hapened on Good Friday. Why shouldn’t they both have a thread?
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The best photos for the pauline mass are from the Assumption Grotto parish in Michigan.

The picture of the last supper does not bear much resemblance to the pauline mass.
 
Actually, the Pauline Mass is not supposed to be done versus populum. If you look in the GIRM, at the orate fratres, it says the priest should turn to face the people. This implies that he wasn’t facing them to begin with.
 
Haha, it looks like the people are behind him to me. I’m just telling you what the GIRM says 😃 . Although, as pope, he has supreme authority in those matters so he can make his own rules as goes along 😃

The Tridentine Mass was actually done towards the people too in certain circumstances like large papal Masses (similar to above):

I don’t want to hijack your thread, so I will link to this picture of Padre Pio facing the people during a large Tridentine Mass

freewebz.com/voicemag/pio.htm
 
Piux X wrote:
I was not being sarcastic. I could not find a good pic of the Last Supper online that wasn’t too big.
Why wouldn’t I want to go down this road? Both masses are the unbloody renewal of what hapened on Good Friday. Why shouldn’t they both have a thread?
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I don’t think you were being sarcastic; but here are a couple of comments.
  1. Those present at the Last Supper reclined in the Eastern manner, not as depicted in the painting. But, this is unimportant as to the development of the Mass.
  2. The Last Supper was NOT the “unbloody renewal of what happened on Good Friday” - for it preceeded Good Friday. It could be said that it was the unbloody anticipation of the Sacrifice on the Cross.
 
  1. I concede that to you.
  2. I was referring to the Tridentine and the Pauline masses, not the last supper.
Genesis, they are the concelebrants! 😛

Now, does anyone else have any pics to add?
 
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Genesis315:
The Tridentine Mass was actually done towards the people too in certain circumstances like large papal Masses (similar to above)
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In St. Peters’, as far as I know from what I have read, the Tridentine Mass was always celebrated facing the people. The point was to face east. St. Peters’, because of the landscape it was built on, was built in a way that facing east meant facing the people.
 
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Genesis315:
Actually, the Pauline Mass is not supposed to be done versus populum. If you look in the GIRM, at the orate fratres, it says the priest should turn to face the people. This implies that he wasn’t facing them to begin with.
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This is what the GIRM ACUTALLY says:
  1. After the prayer In spiritu humilitatis (Lord God, we ask you to receive us) or after the incensation, the priest washes his hands standing at the side of the altar and, as the minister pours the water, says quietly, Lava me, Domine (Lord, wash away my iniquity).
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  1. Upon returning to the middle of the altar, the priest, facing the people and extending and then joining his hands, invites the people to pray, saying, Orate, fraters (Pray, brethren). The people rise and make their response: Suscipiat Dominus (May the Lord accept). Then the priest, with hands extended, says the prayer over the offerings. At the end the people make the acclamation, Amen.
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As you can see, the GIRM indicates an ad populum position for the priest, and the reason he wasn’t facing them is because he was at the side of the altar turned towards the altar boy to wash his hands.
 
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Genesis315:
Haha, it looks like the people are behind him to me. I’m just telling you what the GIRM says 😃 . Although, as pope, he has supreme authority in those matters so he can make his own rules as goes along 😃

The Tridentine Mass was actually done towards the people too in certain circumstances like large papal Masses (similar to above):

I don’t want to hijack your thread, so I will link to this picture of Padre Pio facing the people during a large Tridentine Mass

freewebz.com/voicemag/pio.htm
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Well at numerous times in the Traditional Mass the priest would turn and face the congregation, usually with his hands either extended or upraised. the picture you have posted looks like one of thosae occasions.
 
I find it stange that there is a thread for pictures of the old Mass but when someone tries to do the same for the current Mass we get this conversation.
 
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ByzCath:
I find it stange that there is a thread for pictures of the old Mass but when someone tries to do the same for the current Mass we get this conversation.
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Strange it may be, but I think of it as a form of tyrrany.

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Michael
 
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ByzCath:
I find it stange that there is a thread for pictures of the old Mass but when someone tries to do the same for the current Mass we get this conversation.
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Not strange at all. I think ita a pretty accurate reflection of the way things are.
 
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jimmy:
The best photos for the pauline mass are from the Assumption Grotto parish in Michigan.

The picture of the last supper does not bear much resemblance to the pauline mass.
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How do you know, were you there? 😃
 
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