Placing Children for Adoption - Gay vs Athiest Parents

[nodito]

My friend and I were discussing the morality of placing children with adoptive parents who were in a homosexual relationship (a topic that, I am well aware, has been discussed at length here on CAF). One of the issues he raised was whether I thought doing so would be worse than placing a child with an adoptive married heterosexual couple who would not teach the child about God (or teach him that God does not exist). He argued that although a child does have a right to a mother and a father, he also has the right to know God, and that the gay couple is not necessarily “worse.”

I’m interested in your thoughts on this topic and also whether anyone here happens to know whether Catholic adoption agencies screen out couples who are not believers.

 

[Hatikvah]

I can’t say anything for certain, so I’m subscribing to see the others’ statements.

 

[Strydersroom]

Gay, Straight, or Atheist, GOOD parents who love their children are BEST for children. Bad parents can come in any of the above combination. To label any of those 3 groups as always better, or always wrong, or always insert adjective is the true error.

So to sum up, Children should be adopted by those who would love, cherish and protect them. Period.

 

[katy]

I’m not knowledgeable about requirements currently. I do know there are so very many straight, well balanced couples yearning to adopt that the whole discussion is needless.

 

[Regina7]

I’m not sure that one is better or worse than the other, but there is a significant difference. An atheist husband and wife can covert- their religion is not permanent. The gender/sex of a homosexual couple is however. So that child will never have the chance to have both a mom and a dad (barring divorce and remarriage with opposite sex) whereas the other child does have a chance of having Christian parents.

 

[Rosebud77]

I’m not sure that one is better or worse than the other, but there is a significant difference. An atheist husband and wife can covert- their religion is not permanent. The gender/sex of a homosexual couple is however. So that child will never have the chance to have both a mom and a dad (barring divorce and remarriage with opposite sex) whereas the other child does have a chance of having Christian parents.

Wise words… NB also not being raised by people of faith does not mean you grow up no faith… Raising a child without openness to the Law of God eg gays, is depriving that child and gays live outside the laws of God. .

 

[Strydersroom]

Wise words… NB also not being raised by people of faith does not mean you grow up no faith… Raising a child without openness to the Law of God eg gays, is depriving that child and gays live outside the laws of God. .

My children and I strongly disagree, and luckily so do the laws of America.

 

[tweedlealice]

Salutations,
Well, scrutiny for adoption is still required. The Bible is our map to heaven. God loves us all but not our sin. “IF YOU DENY ME ON EARTH,I WILL DENY YOU IN HEAVEN. " I have never seen homosexuality approved of by God or Jesus. My brother was bisexual. He was molested by a neighbor when he was 11yo. Nothing was done. This is not true for all, but as a nurse, I did a survey of approx.
50 pts. They all had been molested in younger years. Small city. Not true for all. I only know my answer for all things is Jesus and the Bible. Two men or women can live together and choose not to have sex. We can be happy going through life never having had sex.
Atheist teach there is no God or Heaven or hell. They may never change their theology. The children can hear a salvation message outside the house. But we are playing a game of chance here.
A Christian, holy, kind orphanage is better than the other two choices.
Dear God, Satan has control over the earth. We can only trust you to hear our prayers and let us see the answer working. You sent your Son, so we may have abundant life and come home to you Father. Holy Spirit, open the eyes of our hearts Lord, so we can see you and believe in you. For those who feel they have gender problems, let them know the only joy is our relationship w you. Mary, Mother of God continue these prayers for truth, love, faith and knowledge so we here on earth can feel your Son’s love and guidance. Angels of God, our Guardians, dear. To whom God”'s love commits thee here. Ever this day be at my side. To light, to guard , to rule and guide. Amen.
If I am out of the state of grace, place me there. If I am in the state of grace, leave me there. Per St. Joan of Arc.
May all the Saints and angels be involved in prayer and action for the poor souls in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan.
in Christ’s love
Tweedlealice

 

[e_c]

A general rule can’t be laid down. We are dealing with situations which demand particular evaluation and the application of practical wisdom.

Some principles exist though, assuming we are comparing non-believers with believers in a SSM…

1. Not being taught about God and being taught against God are different, so this must be weighed for the non-believers.
2. There seems to be a greater likelihood that a non-believer converts than a homosexual changes attraction (and subsequently rectifies the situation)
3. It is better not to know God and offend Him than to know God and offend Him… Pearls before swine, “They would not know sin if I had not come,” Paul in Romans 1, etc.

Seems that in general it would be safer to give a child to non-believers.

 

[vz71]

Why place the child at all.
Wouldn’t an orphanage be a better option then sexual immorality or a spiritual vacuum?

 

[Neofight]

A better first question asked would be posed to Catholics who see either option as wrong. That is, if it is such an important dilemma, why not adopt a child ourselves to save one child from such an issue?

Before someone asks, we adopted a 2 year old child into our family at a time when we had 2 kids under age 5, on one (mid grade enlisted military) salary.

I’ve always wondered how so many people can be so concerned about the lifestyle of adoptive parents, or who claim to be pro life, and yet the percentage of those who adopt is not even remotely close to those who feel thst way.

 

[Padres1969]

Why place the child at all.
Wouldn’t an orphanage be a better option then sexual immorality or a spiritual vacuum?

I would think not. Loving parents are always the better option.

 

[Rosebud77]

I would think not. Loving parents are always the better option.

Please reread the concerns in the question? I have worked as a House Mother in a childrens home ( we do not call them orphanages now) and it was a loving and very responsible environment. With no sexual immorality or spiritual vacuum No loving parent would raise their child in that manner.

 

[nodito]

A better first question asked would be posed to Catholics who see either option as wrong. That is, if it is such an important dilemma, why not adopt a child ourselves to save one child from such an issue?

These really are separate issues. Whether an individual or family is able to adopt a child has no bearing on whether it is wrong to place that same child or other children into a particular situation. There are many gifts, but the same spirit. There are many reasons why individuals are unable to adopt; this should not exclude them from the conversation about what is in the best interests of the children in our country.

 

[Neofight]

These really are separate issues. Whether an individual or family is able to adopt a child has no bearing on whether it is wrong to place that same child or other children into a particular situation. There are many gifts, but the same spirit. There are many reasons why individuals are unable to adopt; this should not exclude them from the conversation about what is in the best interests of the children in our country.

At issue is not who is able to adopt, at issue is others setting the minimum qualifications of who should if they are able.

 

[1neophyte]

That’s like asking if it’s better to place children with adoptive parents who will feed them dog food, or those who would feed them cat food.

 

[nodito]

At issue is not who is able to adopt, at issue is others setting the minimum qualifications of who should if they are able.

I agree. But this is by necessity. How else would it work? Should we trust prospective adoptive parents to decide themselves whether they be permitted to adopt?

 

[tseleehw]

If there has to be a choice between the two, I would say the atheist parents hands down. At least there is a chance that the atheist parents could convert in the future while the gay parents probably have little to no hope of ever repenting of their sinful relationship. Also, placing the child with gay parents is harmful due to the child not having either a mother or father to raise them. Not that either choice in this scenario is good, but the atheist couple would be the more “hopeful” choice IMO.

 

[Rosebud77]

If there has to be a choice between the two, I would say the atheist parents hands down. At least there is a chance that the atheist parents could convert in the future while the gay parents probably have little to no hope of ever repenting of their sinful relationship. Also, placing the child with gay parents is harmful due to the child not having either a mother or father to raise them. Not that either choice in this scenario is good, but the atheist couple would be the more “hopeful” choice IMO.

Agreeing mostly bt again it depends on why the parents are atheist and how militant they re. Inculcating hatred of spiritual values in a child is easy to do.

When I was in Scotland and they were campaigning to allow schools to teach that gay partnership was a valid family lifestyle,one of the publcity films that aroused strong feeling was of two men in bed and a little girl atop the blankets playing in nightwear

 

[Rau]

These really are separate issues. Whether an individual or family is able to adopt a child has no bearing on whether it is wrong to place that same child or other children into a particular situation. There are many gifts, but the same spirit. There are many reasons why individuals are unable to adopt; this should not exclude them from the conversation about what is in the best interests of the children in our country.

It may be separate, but if is a more important question. It exposes the larger issue - which is the consequences of our failure to love.