Planned Parenthood vs Community Health Centers - KEY FACTS

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Planned Parenthood: the largest provider of health care services to women only if you define health care services as abortion.

Facilities in the US
  • Planned Parenthood - fewer than 700 (31 states have fewer than 10 clinics)
  • Community Health Centers - more than 9000 (located in 98 percent of Congressional Districts)
Number of Patients served (Women and Men)
  • Planned Parenthood - 2.7 million
  • Community Health Centers - 21 million
Pap Tests
  • Planned Parenthood - 378,692
  • Community Health Centers - 1,787,256
Mammograms
  • Planned Parenthood - ZERO
  • Community Health Centers - 424,376
Abortions
  • Planned Parenthood - 327,653
  • Community Health Centers - ZERO
Source: Democrats for Life

We need to keep beating this drum!! If PP goes away, there are more accessible and better options. Options that are not mired in scandal… Options that could use the tax payer money.
 
godisgood77 said:
Planned Parenthood: the largest provider of health care services to women only if you define health care services as abortion.

Facilities in the US
  • Planned Parenthood - fewer than 700 (31 states have fewer than 10 clinics)
  • Community Health Centers - more than 9000 (located in 98 percent of Congressional Districts)
Number of Patients served (Women and Men)
  • Planned Parenthood - 2.7 million
  • Community Health Centers - 21 million
Pap Tests
  • Planned Parenthood - 378,692
  • Community Health Centers - 1,787,256
Mammograms
  • Planned Parenthood - ZERO
  • Community Health Centers - 424,376
Abortions
  • Planned Parenthood - 327,653
  • Community Health Centers - ZERO
Source: Democrats for Life

We need to keep beating this drum!! If PP goes away, there are more accessible and better options. Options that are not mired in scandal… Options that could use the tax payer money.
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Exactly.
 
Here’s another one for you that I figured out today:

Planned Parenthood claims that half of their 2.7 million patients are on medicaid and would have nowhere else to turn.

Let’s do the math. About 1 in 5 Americans receives medicaid. For argument’s sake, let’s assume an even 50-50 split of men and women. There are roughly 350 million Americans, so if 1/5 is on medicaid and half of those are women we have 35 million American women seeking healthcare on medicaid.

As mentioned above, Planned Parenthood has 2.7 million patients. Half of that would be 1.35 million.

1.35/35 = 3.8 percent.

That means 96.2 percent of women receiving medicaid benefits are NOT using Planned Parenthood.
 
CatholicHockey7 said:
Here’s another one for you that I figured out today:

Planned Parenthood claims that half of their 2.7 million patients are on medicaid and would have nowhere else to turn.

Let’s do the math. About 1 in 5 Americans receives medicaid. For argument’s sake, let’s assume an even 50-50 split of men and women. There are roughly 350 million Americans, so if 1/5 is on medicaid and half of those are women we have 35 million American women seeking healthcare on medicaid.

As mentioned above, Planned Parenthood has 2.7 million patients. Half of that would be 1.35 million.

1.35/35 = 3.8 percent.

That means 96.2 percent of women receiving medicaid benefits are NOT using Planned Parenthood.
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Well now you’re just talking crazy. Why interject logic into a message based purely on emotion?
 
I told some liberals about this and they said “the wait at FQHCs is so long! You can wait months to be seen for a pap smear, but at PP you can walk right in and be seen.”

So, comments on this? And please do not attempt to attack the veracity, let’s stipulate for argument that it is true.
 
Elizium23 said:
I told some liberals about this and they said “the wait at FQHCs is so long! You can wait months to be seen for a pap smear, but at PP you can walk right in and be seen.”

So, comments on this? And please do not attempt to attack the veracity, let’s stipulate for argument that it is true.
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Easy… If true, which is doubtable, the additional funds would improve infrastructure which would enable service level improvements to equal or exceed PP… It’s easy to see how a network of 9000 can better serve the public over the narrow cast health care options of PP. not to mention, at PP the motives of the service agents will be forever in doubt … Easy.

Also and maybe more compelling… , are these the same liberals who would argue against this same objection when talking about universal health care??? Why would this be true for some healthcare and not this particular healthcare? Easy…
 
Elizium23 said:
I told some liberals about this and they said “the wait at FQHCs is so long! You can wait months to be seen for a pap smear, but at PP you can walk right in and be seen.”

So, comments on this? And please do not attempt to attack the veracity, let’s stipulate for argument that it is true.
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Okay. First of all, in rural communities, the only feasable choice is FQHCs. PP clinics tend to be in large metropolitan areas. FQHCs have less staff than PP clinics, and the staff are given less pay than PP clinics. FQHCs need more money to be able to pay their workers competitive wages and benefit packages, so that they can attract more qualified staff to work for them. If they can attract (and keep) more qualified staff, then that should easily reduce waiting times at such clinics.
 
Elizium23 said:
I told some liberals about this and they said “the wait at FQHCs is so long! You can wait months to be seen for a pap smear, but at PP you can walk right in and be seen.”

So, comments on this? And please do not attempt to attack the veracity, let’s stipulate for argument that it is true.
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In addition to the argument that the federal money could help improve infrastructure for the clinics, I would add that those are hardly the only places they can go for help.

I talked about the percentages before. Let’s say all 21 million patients at the public clinics are on Medicaid. That’s 21/70, or 30 percent. That means 70 percent of medicaid recipients are still getting care elsewhere.

One option is Catholic Charities. Through their local organizations, Catholic Charities USA served 928,292 patients in 2011. Of those who reported their age, 33 percent where children, 9 percent were seniors, and 58 percent adults. The services break down like this:

53% behavioral health services
31% other
10% pregnancy services
5% prescription assistance

Catholic Charities has only 174 organizations (about 1/7th of PP) and yet served 34% as many patients. (Only 147 organizations responded to the 2011 survey).

Imagine if we gave the money to Catholic Charities for the expressed purpose of healthcare!
 
godisgood77 said:
Planned Parenthood: the largest provider of health care services to women only if you define health care services as abortion.

Facilities in the US
  • Planned Parenthood - fewer than 700 (31 states have fewer than 10 clinics)
  • Community Health Centers - more than 9000 (located in 98 percent of Congressional Districts)
Number of Patients served (Women and Men)
  • Planned Parenthood - 2.7 million
  • Community Health Centers - 21 million
Pap Tests
  • Planned Parenthood - 378,692
  • Community Health Centers - 1,787,256
Mammograms
  • Planned Parenthood - ZERO
  • Community Health Centers - 424,376
Abortions
  • Planned Parenthood - 327,653
  • Community Health Centers - ZERO
Source: Democrats for Life

We need to keep beating this drum!! If PP goes away, there are more accessible and better options. Options that are not mired in scandal… Options that could use the tax payer money.
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Can you please share the link? I would like to share these stats on Facebook
 
I’m glad that there are actually "Democrats’ for life—almost sounds like an oxymoron, eh? Classicar.😃
 
classicar said:
I’m glad that there are actually "Democrats’ for life—almost sounds like an oxymoron, eh? Classicar.😃
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Actually, it makes more sense than Democrats for Choice.

Think about it, what do the Democrats (and “liberal” colleagues/supporters) always use against pro-lifers? They love to run to the, “you want them born, but you don’t want them to live” excuses. They point to the fact that conservatives, who make up the majority of pro-life advocates, are against various welfare programs.

But ask them how we can trust their guarantees to education and the middle-class lifestyle they want for everyone, when we can’t even trust them to guarantee our right to life. Ask them if the right to life isn’t sacred, how can any rights be considered sacred? I have yet to get a coherent response.

A pro-life Democrat, however, could level those same accusations and there is no quick rebuttal. This individual is absolutely going to work to guarantee those things “liberals” hold more sacred than cows in India. And I can trust him/her to do that because he/she also protects the most basic right, life.
 
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