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Hello all, please bear with me as I describe my situation and ask for your help! (CAUTION - GRAPHIC DESCRIPTION TO FOLLOW!)

I recently came to the catholic church (in RCIA right now!) and I LOVE it! Now, my question really involves something I did BEFORE I came to the church. A few years ago I was in a very sinful phase of my life and, sparing you the details, had large breast implants. Now, they are in need of ‘repair’ for various reasons and I am wondering… Should I get them ‘fixed’ and continue with them, or would it be a better moral choice to simply have them removed, given that it may lead to sagging skin (please forgive the graphic but that’s the truth - I’m sure you can understand what would happen).

Thoughts? (name removed by moderator)ut? I am trying to live by all that the church teaches and I’m really not sure what to do!

Thank you in advance and God bless!
 
God Bless you!

Have them removed, God never intended you to mutilate your body and cause yourself pain and suffering for the lust of sinful men like me!

You are truly beautiful, and i can only see your words.

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark
 
Do you have a husband? Or want a husband someday? If you would get them “fixed” in an attempt to please your husband or a husband someday, it does not seem like a sinful thing to do. Although I agree generally with the above poster, I think the important thing is how you will like yourself the best. I don’t mean this in a new age-ish, love yourself type thing, but out of utility–you will see yourself in the mirror a few billion times before you die. If you dislike what you see–regardless of how spiritually fulfilling it may be–it may cause you to blame your faith and stumble. Or, what about a compromise–can you get smaller ones, such that they are not noticeable, but do not come with the negative side effects? As in, can you get it reduced (or something, I don’t know how this works) back to your original state? That might be the optimal way. Then you are, more or less, restoring what God gave you.
 
It is an option to simply take out the larger ones and implant a much smaller less obvious set. I am not married but would like to be soon, and although I know that its not what you look like that matters, I know men do care. And I care too. I just want to make sure I make the ‘right’ choice in Gods eyes!

Thank you for your feedback! I really do appreciate it!
 
I’m a guy, so I can never really know what this means to a woman. So perhaps I shouldn’t say anything. But I will.

I have always had a kind of revulsion toward breast implants. I have heard too many stories of bad outcomes. I remember long ago that a friend of mine in the medical business gave me a pair of them as a joke. It really seemed appalling to me, after examining them, that anyone would want them to be inside her body. They just seemed so alien. I decided to cut into one to see what all that jelled stuff was like, and it was even more repulsive. There was this fabric-like stuff on the back where they would be sutured onto the chest wall or something. :eek: Anyhow, I threw them away.

That really did turn me off of implants, and when I see someone who obviously has them, (And you can sure tell.) I sort of cringe for her.

I’m married now, and my wife has no need of them, or any desire to have them. There was a time when she went really skinny (as women sometimes do for reasons I don’t fully understand) and I guess at that time some people would have thought she could have used them. I would have just died if she had.

There’s one thing I can’t say here that I have said to my wife, in the way I have said it to her. That is, 😊 that a truly knowledgeable man knows that bulk is not what counts. That’s it. I won’t say anymore. 😊😊😊
 
Will you be able to handle the sagging skin, or are you going to hate what you see?
 
ridgerunner - thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut! I totally see how it can be gross to some people. They are not and never will be ‘part’ of me and i have heard men say that no matter what, a woman looks better without! And I agree with you that a man should know what really counts!

As far as the sagging skin…I honestly don’t know. Thats the thing. Its such a toss up, either have them replaced and just hope that they turn out well but still have fake body parts, or have them removed and possibly hate the outcome!

🤷
 
prodigaldotkait said:
ridgerunner - thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut! I totally see how it can be gross to some people. They are not and never will be ‘part’ of me and i have heard men say that no matter what, a woman looks better without! And I agree with you that a man should know what really counts!

As far as the sagging skin…I honestly don’t know. Thats the thing. Its such a toss up, either have them replaced and just hope that they turn out well but still have fake body parts, or have them removed and possibly hate the outcome!

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I think this is really personal and it’s beyond my understanding why you would ask the advice of perfect strangers. But anyway I have a thought why don’t you get them removed. See if you can handle it and then decide whether you should get another set. Perhaps it will be just a matter of getting used to it (the sagging) over time. 🤷 Sounds like being natural and not fake is more important to you, Sagging will happen eventually naturally anyway. Take my word for it :o
 
It seems like you are associating the implants with a sinful period in your life and perhaps they function as a symbol for sin in your thinking.

I’m an endowed woman - I’d much rather be less endowed. Either way, I don’t think it’s a sin to wish to improve yourself. In a few years I intend on having an eye or brow lift. In my profession, looking “old” is a negative. I color my hair now, and have pierced ears.

That said, I think there’s a measure of degrees to be considered. If you go overboard in plastic surgery (there are horror stories and pix online), then it might be a problem. But in moderation…
 
I went through your very situation quite a few years ago. I had very large implants for all the wrong reasons. Several years later I went to a wonderful plastic surgeon who removed them completely and repaired my breasts so that you really can’t tell that I ever had them. When you remove implants like that, the surgeon will do a breast lift just like they do for women who get a breast reduction. There will be no sagging… I promise.
 
ridgerunner said:
i’m a guy, so i can never really know what this means to a woman. So perhaps i shouldn’t say anything. But i will.

I have always had a kind of revulsion toward breast implants. I have heard too many stories of bad outcomes. I remember long ago that a friend of mine in the medical business gave me a pair of them as a joke. It really seemed appalling to me, after examining them, that anyone would want them to be inside her body. They just seemed so alien. I decided to cut into one to see what all that jelled stuff was like, and it was even more repulsive. There was this fabric-like stuff on the back where they would be sutured onto the chest wall or something. :eek: Anyhow, i threw them away.

That really did turn me off of implants, and when i see someone who obviously has them, (and you can sure tell.) i sort of cringe for her.

I’m married now, and my wife has no need of them, or any desire to have them. There was a time when she went really skinny (as women sometimes do for reasons i don’t fully understand) and i guess at that time some people would have thought she could have used them. I would have just died if she had.

There’s one thing i can’t say here that i have said to my wife, in the way i have said it to her. That is, 😊 That a truly knowledgeable man knows that bulk is not what counts. That’s it. I won’t say anymore. 😊😊😊
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amen brother!!!
Listen to him. As for removing them? I vote yes. My wife never had them. A man of substance craves his wife as she is, and makes love to HER, not an idealized plastic surgeon’s creation. If you aren’t good enough, as is, for some guy, then in Brooklyn NY we call that a clue. If a guy needs that sort of ‘perfection’, what happens when select portions of your anatomy begin to succumb to gravity as you age? Will you allow yourself to be carved up like a Christmas turkey? Will you draw the line? Will he lose interest? Who needs that heartache? There are lots of great men, men such as Ridgerunner who will be turned on by you au natural. Those are the men of substance, the keepers, the ones who appreciate the unique manifestations of womanly beauty in every season of a woman’s life. :love: :whacky: :bowdown2:

God Bless
 
Gerard_Nadal said:
amen brother!!!
Listen to him. As for removing them? I vote yes. My wife never had them. A man of substance craves his wife as she is, and makes love to HER, not an idealized plastic surgeon’s creation. If you aren’t good enough, as is, for some guy, then in Brooklyn NY we call that a clue. If a guy needs that sort of ‘perfection’, what happens when select portions of your anatomy begin to succumb to gravity as you age? Will you allow yourself to be carved up like a Christmas turkey? Will you draw the line? Will he lose interest? Who needs that heartache? There are lots of great men, men such as Ridgerunner who will be turned on by you au natural. Those are the men of substance, the keepers, the ones who appreciate the unique manifestations of womanly beauty in every season of a woman’s life. :love: :whacky: :bowdown2:

God Bless
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I got tickled at this. Because you’re a guy, I’m going to share one of my secrets of marital strategems with you. It’s silly, but it works. I sometimes say to my wife words to this effect: “Something I don’t understand here. If you’re (her age, which I won’t divulge) how come your (body parts in question) stay at 18 years old?” She accuses me of silly flattery, but she does smile when she makes the accusation. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
 
I would talk to the doctor about what the possibilities are. Things I would want to consider - if you get new, smaller implants, are there risks involved with having them in your body? Could you need to have them repaired again? Also, like the pp mentioned, what does the surgeon say you can expect when the removal is finished, aesthetically?

One other thing I would ask, and depending on how the first procedure is done it could be a moot point - how could it affect you ability to breastfeed in the future. Any procedure that cuts around the nipple can make breastfeeding difficult or impossible. Would a breast lift or new implants require this, if it wasn’t done before?
 
prodigaldotkait said:
, had large breast implants. Now, they are in need of ‘repair’ for various reasons and I am wondering… Should I get them ‘fixed’ and continue with them, or would it be a better moral choice to simply have them removed, s!
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morality does not enter into this, it is a matter for you and your doctor to discuss and make a prudential judgement. There is no moral issue with having any surgery or medical procedure done to treat a condition or improve quality of life, as long as it does not end a viable life (euthanasia, direct abortion etc). A lot of people have given their opinion but that does not make it Church teaching. If you think you have a personal moral issue of any kind, discuss it with the priest who is directing your RCIA. If you think you have a medical issue of any kind, discuss it with your doctor.
 
Talk to your doctor!!! I think your options are better than you realize.
You know how you want to look. Just tell the doctor your concern. LOTS of women have implants removed and their doctor is able to return them to their previous au naturel state. I know people who have had their implants removed, and they were very happy with the results. In some cases, they also got a ‘lift’, and in some cases it made more sense to just go down in implant size. Again, lay it all right out there for your dr. and he or she can tell you all your options. I’m betting you’ll be much relieved after talking to the surgeon.
I really think you have more options here than you realize!
Oh yeah, and welcome home to the Catholic Church. She’s been waiting for you. 🙂
 
The Church has no rule regarding breast implants. Therefore, this is a personal decision for you. As someone mentioned above, perhaps you are associating your surgery with sins of your past, but having or getting breast implants is not a sin itself. It may be that you originally chose to have implants for the wrong reasons, but that does not make it sinful to keep or maintain them. You should pray about this, research the medical aspects of it, and make a decision yourself. God bless.
 
prodigaldotkait said:
sparing you the details, had large breast implants. Now, they are in need of ‘repair’ for various reasons and I am wondering… Should I get them ‘fixed’ and continue with them, or would it be a better moral choice to simply have them removed
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This is a question for your surgeon, really, rather than a strictly speaking moral question (if you’d never had them, I’d strongly advise against getting them–but then I’ve come the opposite direction as this past summer I had a breast reduction–however, since they already exist, the question is a little different).

Amongst the questions to ask your surgeon–probability of a recurrence of the problem that requires ‘fixing’ as my understanding is that it’s very common and continuing with implants may mean committing to having either future problems or several more ‘repair’ surgeries over your lifetime. But a good surgeon can definitely give you a good end appearance (although the scars are inevitable) whether you decide for a complete return to natural size or a simple reduction in implant size.

Also consider how much impact the implants will have on various breast-screening procedures as their presence does complicate those tests (and early-caught breast cancers are so treatable nowadays).
 
cam100 said:
The Church has no rule regarding breast implants. Therefore, this is a personal decision for you. As someone mentioned above, perhaps you are associating your surgery with sins of your past, but having or getting breast implants is not a sin itself. It may be that you originally chose to have implants for the wrong reasons, but that does not make it sinful to keep or maintain them. You should pray about this, research the medical aspects of it, and make a decision yourself. God bless.
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Are you certain of this, or do breast implants come under the rubric of mutilation?
 
Gerard_Nadal said:
Are you certain of this, or do breast implants come under the rubric of mutilation?
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Mutilation is the destruction of a body part. Breast augmentation does not destroy the breasts; it changes their appearance. Now, it can be argued that breast augmentation can interfere with breastfeeding, as some women report this problem. However, many women are able to successfully breastfeed after a breast augmentation. It depends largely upon the type of procedure that is used. This is definitely something to consider if one is planning such surgery.
 
I agree with a lot of the men on this post… God made you perfectly the way He wanted. Being I am a woman, I would pray about it but I don’t really have much advice because I never considered implants… but I know everything will turn out spectacular and your future husband will think that too 🙂
 
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