Plato's quote on religion

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Hello,

I’m looking for a quote of Plato defending religion, but I can’t find it. Could someone help me out?

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I can only think of one regarding atheism. “Atheism is a disease of the soul before it ever becomes an error of understanding.”
 
Have you thought about reading Book X of the Laws, or read the whole Timæus, to see what jumps out at you?

The Timæus will talk about distinctions between the physical world and the eternal world, the divine craftsman who made the universe, how God gave man a soul and intelligence, etc. So it’s not necessarily a reflection on organized religion, but still can be very pertinent.

Laws is a defense against impiety/atheism, a defense of the existence of gods, and an argument towards their good nature-- they can’t be bribed to overlook injustice, etc.

It’s good to recognize things in their context, or appreciate the larger works from which little quotes are drawn. For example, I don’t believe the previously-mentioned quote exists verbatim in Plato-- it’s famous, but there’s no source-- but is rather a summary of ideas. But if you read Book X of the Laws, you’ll see he advocates a minimum stint of five years in reeducation camps and, for those for whom the camps are insufficient, ultimately the death penalty for disbelievers. (He calls it “imprisonment”, but, y’know…)

So, yeah. There’s a ton of information out there, but it generally doesn’t exist in short, snappy sound-bites. But it’s fascinating in its own way. 👍
 
Plato isn’t given much to talking about religion the way we do. For one thing, he had no Revelation to work with other than Homer, Hesiod, and tradition. These hardly qualify as Revelation so much as fiction, and Plato generally treats the gods of Homer and Hesiod as fiction; though he leaves the door open to a God not known except vaguely to philosophers as the Creator and Designer of things. Plato certainly was no atheist, though it’s fair to say he didn’t believe in Zeus and Company. He saw the dangers of atheism, and suggested ways to sternly treat it in the Laws. I think he anticipated the famous modern dictum attributed to Dostoevsky: “If there is no God, everything is permitted.” That would certainly not sit well with Plato who was a great advocate for public order as opposed to anarchy, and an advocate for a society ruled by philosopher kings rather than mindless thugs.
 
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