Playing for a gay wedding?

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Hi all,

I am currently learning to play the bagpipes. I am a nurse at a long term care facility and one of the practices we have adopted is that when someone passed away, we have a mini funeral on the unit, and then I play my bagpipes (usually Amazing Grace) while the body is being removed from the unit.

One of my coworkers is gay, and she is getting married in the Spring. Her fiancé and she are tossing around the idea of hiring me to play for the ceremony. I know as a Catholic it isn’t permitted to be a part of the wedding ceremony (member of the wedding party, etc), but if I’m hired to play music, but yet have no actual part in the ceremony, is that considered a sin?
 
Hi Dan,

This is a difficult and increasingly frequent dilemma. It will depend on some factors, but if there is not a serious difficulty for you to avoid playing the event then it would seem to be quite obligatory that you do avoid it. Any kind of free cooperation would suggest approval, which is both contrary to the natural order in itself and can also be scandalous.

If your family would starve without the money, it would be a different ballgame.

-e_c
 
Ok, follow up question. What if I was hired to play for a Protestant wedding? Since they are not recognized by the Church, would the same rules apply?
 
Who told you that Protestant weddings are not recognized by the Church? That is not the case.
 
Providing a certain paid service for a wedding (music, cakes etc ) doesn’t automatically mean you approve of this. It’s nonsensical.
 
e_c said:
Hi Dan,

This is a difficult and increasingly frequent dilemma. It will depend on some factors, but if there is not a serious difficulty for you to avoid playing the event then it would seem to be quite obligatory that you do avoid it. Any kind of free cooperation would suggest approval, which is both contrary to the natural order in itself and can also be scandalous.

If your family would starve without the money, it would be a different ballgame.

-e_c
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I agree
 
Otar_Mendes said:
Providing a certain paid service for a wedding (music, cakes etc ) doesn’t automatically mean you approve of this. It’s nonsensical.
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Sorry, but you are incorrect. Playing music, baking a cake, or providing flowers are supporting the wedding, and Christians don’t support same sex “marriages.”

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dantheman0904 said:
Hi all,

I am currently learning to play the bagpipes. I am a nurse at a long term care facility and one of the practices we have adopted is that when someone passed away, we have a mini funeral on the unit, and then I play my bagpipes (usually Amazing Grace) while the body is being removed from the unit.

One of my coworkers is gay, and she is getting married in the Spring. Her fiancé and she are tossing around the idea of hiring me to play for the ceremony. I know as a Catholic it isn’t permitted to be a part of the wedding ceremony (member of the wedding party, etc), but if I’m hired to play music, but yet have no actual part in the ceremony, is that considered a sin?
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Politely decline and state you are not available.
 
I would say there’s a difference between a normal business, and one that you have a relationship.
A normal business, where you do not expect recurring, is completely up to you – just like those left wingers who worked as waiters in GOP meetings. Granted, it’s their lifeblood
A business between coworkers always imply support.
 
i wouldn’t worry about it

play your “bagpipes”

collect your paycheck & move on w/ your life…
 
Viki63 said:
Playing music, baking a cake, or providing flowers are supporting the wedding

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I’ sorry but that’s absurd. If this logic was sound and widespread then 80%+ of business operations would fail. I mean when everyone would start refusing to provide standard(default) paid services for the ones they didn’t like\didn’t want to support etc for whatever reasons
 
Otar_Mendes said:
I’ sorry but that’s absurd. If this logic was sound and widespread then 80%+ of business operations would fail. I mean when everyone would start refusing to provide standard(default) paid services for the ones they didn’t like\didn’t want to support etc for whatever reasons
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There’s a difference between a gay couple buying a birthday cake at your bakery and buying a wedding cake. Baking the latter is directly involved in cooperating with the institution of gay marriage. Same difference between a gay couple eating at your restaurant versus hosting their own wedding reception at one’s restaurant.

I’m not saying that the baker or restaurant owner must decline in either of the latter cases, but there are real distinctions.
 
This is the type of question, where, if you post it here, you pretty much can guess what the answer is going to be.

For questions of “is this a sin?” it is always best to talk to your priest.

And if one must politely decline to play, in view of the work situation described and the current legal climate, it would seem prudent to just schedule one’s out-of-town vacation for the weekend of the wedding. :twocents:
 
abinjoy said:
Gay marriage in the eyes of the catholic church is “evil”. But Protestant weddings are not.
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Not “evil” so much as ontologically impossible. We can’t attest to something that isn’t possible, just like we couldn’t call a chair a clock. 🤷
 
PaulfromIowa said:
Who told you that Protestant weddings are not recognized by the Church? That is not the case.
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I was going off the premise that if say a Protestant couple wished to convert to Catholicism then they would have to complete a modified precana and ceremony in order for their marriage to be recognized in the Church.
 
dantheman0904 said:
I was going off the premise that if say a Protestant couple wished to convert to Catholicism then they would have to complete a modified precana and ceremony in order for their marriage to be recognized in the Church.
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It’s a real marriage. Marriage is a natural institution before it is a supernatural institution, and validly baptized persons can confer the sacrament with other validly baptized persons whether they are Protestant, Orthodox, Catholic, whatever.
 
Otar_Mendes said:
Providing a certain paid service for a wedding (music, cakes etc ) doesn’t automatically mean you approve of this. It’s nonsensical.
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Otar_Mendes said:
I’ sorry but that’s absurd. If this logic was sound and widespread then 80%+ of business operations would fail. I mean when everyone would start refusing to provide standard(default) paid services for the ones they didn’t like\didn’t want to support etc for whatever reasons
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You aren’t in Kansas anymore, bud. Expect 99% of people here to have wildly different views from you on all kinds of stuff. Notice what the “C” stands for in CAF.
 
Viki63 said:
Sorry, but you are incorrect. Playing music, baking a cake, or providing flowers are supporting the wedding, and Christians don’t support same sex “marriages.”
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It would be more accurate if you said that SOME Christians don’t support same sex weddings. There are millions of us who do.
 
dantheman0904 said:
I was going off the premise that if say a Protestant couple wished to convert to Catholicism then they would have to complete a modified precana and ceremony in order for their marriage to be recognized in the Church.
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Not so. Their marriage would be recognized without having to get “re-married” after their conversion.
 
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