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Caesar517
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Sure, that could be indicative of a problem.
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Shike
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Not having read any of the studies, I’ll give my cold, hard, and raw opinion
…They definitely aren’t equivalent social interactions. I would say that fundamentaly, online interactions revolve around a person’s own wants… which could very easily turn selfish. “I control when I decide to look at your communications, I judge whether you are worthy to speak to me, I decide if I want to respond to your communications or not, I decide what you learn about me and how I appear to you, I decide to break off contact”. Granted, some of these are apart of regular face to face interaction, but not all. I can’t ignore you entirely in the real world and manipulate entirely how I appear to you.
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Michael
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pumpkinbeast
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I beg to differ. You can certainly ignore people in the real world if you would so chose, and decide how you will portray yourself to them. It’s just a lot more difficult to do, especially the ignoring part. I have yet to see how having a conversation with someone online is not a ‘real’ interaction. You are two or more people, having a conversation, and you met while doing something you all enjoy. How is that any different than an interaction in real life?Not having read any of the studies, I’ll give my cold, hard, and raw opinion
They definitely aren’t equivalent social interactions. I would say that fundamentaly, online interactions revolve around a person’s own wants… which could very easily turn selfish. “I control when I decide to look at your communications, I judge whether you are worthy to speak to me, I decide if I want to respond to your communications or not, I decide what you learn about me and how I appear to you, I decide to break off contact”. Granted, some of these are apart of regular face to face interaction, but not all. I can’t ignore you entirely in the real world and manipulate entirely how I appear to you.
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Michael
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Shike
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Noooooooo, I didn’t say it wasn’t a real interaction, just that they are different. The dynamics on how one presents himself is very different depending if it is online or not, which makes both ways different… not to mention the more obvious physical differences.
While it is true you can ignore people in the real world, you usually can’t reinvent yourself so drastically because there is more than just text on a screen. The main problem is the fact that online communication makes all these things easier to do and widely available.
Let’s say somone is addicted to online communications…
Is it possible that if in the real word he finds out that he has less control over life than he had online…
- that it could lead to more frequent online use as an escape?
- that it could lead to depression and dissatisfaction of life?
- or both?
I just want people to be careful with computers, they can cause a lot of grief; adiction: internet, pornography, game, chat, etc, music theft (yes, I’ll call it what it is)… and all at the touch of your fingertips… and young fingertips as well that don’t know better. The benefits may outweigh the cons, but it doesn’t seem like it since the pornography industry makes so much money and so many are getting hurt.
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cynic
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I’ve just got it for PS3. Some pretty extreme gore in it, and there’s the potential to make your character quite evil.
Otherwise I think it’s pretty average, for much the same reasons Oblivion was. The graphics are great from the technical perspective, but the art design not so much and it lacks depth, an involving story, and character.
Better to play “Mass Effect”, if you have a 360,
Or maye Final Fantasy 7, if you haven’t.
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cynic
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Let’s say you go holiday, are you supposed to spend more time each day praying than outdoors?
You could apply that judgement to all recreation.
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Shike
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Perhaps it could be applied… but your category outdoors includes many different activities. Outdoors is no more an activity than indoors, it’s more of a mode of being rather than doing.
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cynic
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Well if you’re on holiday it’s likely going to mean doing recreational…stuff, which is what I meant.
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BRZ
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I am sorry but I don’t see how saying it is okay to spend time doing one thing but not another is a good measurement. People like to spend their time in different ways, why does that have to be a measurement of how good or bad their life might be? If you are not an outdoor person, then it is only obvious you don’t enjoy outdoor activities and prefer indoor activities. I don’t think it is fair to say one is more of a waste of time then another.
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pumpkinbeast
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Fair enough.
And I can see your point, that some people might get addicted to a higher level of control… I’m still not convinced that online interactions are bad, just perhaps that you need to make sure you have the skills to interact in both the online and the face-to-face setting. I know for a fact that I do, so I’m not worried about it.
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BRZ
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Well, I don’t look at pornography and i don’t like chatting online. I only play games, and mostly single player games.
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Shike
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Yes, but “recreational…stuff” is just one activity? Or many?
It’s more nuanced than that. There is some level of measurement involved, for example, giving 3/16 of your waking hours to something and giving less than 1 for something else. No, it can’t ultimately judge you to hell ipso facto in general (
), but I was more interested in computing in specific.That’s what my original claim was.
Good point with the balance thing.Fair enough.
Though I never said online actions were inherently bad, just that they easily can be.
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Michael
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cynic
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Does it make any difference?
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Caesar517
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I agree with the consensus that was reached here.
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Shike
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Actually, yes, in the context of the argument.
Playing video games is one sort of activity that could be normally categorized as something you do inside… while one could do a whole bunch of different activities while being categorized as recreational/outside activities.
But like I said, I’m not so sure that what I said about computers and gaming in particular should be made of entertainment or other activities in general. I never made the jump but continued to argue for the sake of arguing (an easy human tendancy to fall into).
I still think though that one should be praying more than one watches TV or plays video games seperately.
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Michael
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Shike
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Che Bello!I agree with the consensus that was reached here.
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stringbeanduck
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Man I wish I had a little more inspiration to play video games. I’m more of a seasonal gamer. I play during Christmas time and a little on birthday. Other than that I either get board of them or just don’t have the time or just play seldom. Maybe I’m just not “with the times” when it comes to these things. 
As for it being a sin; I think it’s a sin when you put it ahead of God or education.
As for it being a sin; I think it’s a sin when you put it ahead of God or education.
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Reepicheep
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Yes.
Been playing since about 1995. Baldur’s Gate, Might and Magic, Fallout.I think if you play them for pure enjoyment\entertainment, your fine.
Well, at least I hope so as I’m a 41 year old video game addict whose been playing for the last 35 years or so.(Yeah, since, Pong)!
Seriously though, I love gaming, any kind really. Favorite genre is RPG. Baldurs Gate series, Final Fantasy, Oblivion and most recently Fallout 3, which is a bit over the top on some things, but when kept in context, a fantastic game.
“Over-the-top” is an essential part of the Fallout experience.
By the way I really like the character of Moira Brown, in Megaton. Her offbeat cheeriness is a chuckle every time.
Can decrease social interaction. Not necessarily does.
Drunkenness is implicated in a great many violent crimes. It does not follow that everyone who drinks is going to, or even likely to, get drunk.
Depends. Do you mean the four hours I spent with my friend Jamie, discussing movies and music and sharing information about our lives, or time spent in Counterstrike, yelling “STFU, NooB!” and “Ha ha pwned U!” at anonymous opponents?
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Caesar517
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