Please be careful before God!!

[dattaswami]

Please be careful before God!!

Whenever, you pray the Lord, be careful about the meaning of the prayer. You must utter that only, which you can really practice. In the prayer you say that the Lord is every thing for you. You cannot practice this. You cannot prove this as long as the Lord remains formless or in the energetic form or as the statue. But when the Lord comes in the human form and asks you to sacrifice a little for His sake, you will go back. For this inconvenience only you deny the human form. You like the statue or formless aspect of or energetic form of God because they cannot ask you for any proof of your prayer. You want that God should believe your prayer and should blindly sanction whatever you ask. You think that God is innocent and should believe whatever you say without any practical proof or test. This is the main reason for the denial of human form of God. When you offer the food to the Lord, the formless God or the energetic form or the statue will not take even a single particle of your offered food. But if you offer the same food to the human form, you will not get back a single particle to eat. This is the reason for denying the human form of the Lord. First you must be sure of the extent of value you give to God. Then, you must be sure of the extent of your faith when you meet the human incarnation and in recognizing Him as the Lord. If you have full value for the Lord and if you recognize the human incarnation, the full value to God must be proved practically in the case of that human incarnation. If you have full value for God but do not recognize the human incarnation, then there is no opportunity for you to prove your full faith to God. In such case your full value to God is false and you are Hippocratic.

Jesus gave full value to God and sacrificed His life for the sake of God. In the end He told the Lord that His will should be done. When He accepted the will of God to be done, He did not feel adversely in the crucification. Since the crucification was the will of the Lord He followed it sincerely because He told that His will must be done. Therefore, whatever is told must be practiced. During crucification He never asked the Lord to protect Him and stop the crucification. If He had asked for it, it would have been stopped immediately by the miraculous power of the God. Therefore, unless you have the determination of practice you should not utter any thing before the Lord. Once you utter you must follow it at least in the case of the Lord. Most of our prayers are lies only and even one percent cannot be practiced. By doing such false prayers one invokes the anger of the Lord only and not the grace of the Lord. Whatever value you have for the God should be proved in practice and such value only should be mentioned in your words while praying the Lord. Whatever, little love you have for God, mention that much only in words. The God will not be displeased for your little love. In fact He is more pleased because you are telling truth before Him. There are some people who call every greater human being as the Lord. The purpose of such usage is only to have some benefit from that greater human being. Thus, the word Lord has become means to achieve the selfish ends in the hands of clever materialistic people. The false human incarnations may be trapped by such clever people. But the real human incarnation will get reversed.

 

[cheddarsox]

There is a troubled woman who I have been giving a ride to, to a bi-weekly meeting. She has decided I am her new best friend, and now calls and talks, and talks, and talks. And has made a list of things we can do together, and wants me to take a class with her, and drive her to the store, and call her, and etc. etc. etc.

And I am trying to walk the walk, and see the divine in her, but part of me wants to run screaming. I do not want to be her new best friend. I do not want to be her chauffeur. I do not want to be her counselor.

I am torn. I want to help her. But I am not sure I can handle her well of neediness. She does not want a friend. She wants a Savior. She wants a life, and doesn’t know how to have one, so she wants to borrow mine.

I am praying. I am afraid.

cheddar

 

[katewithak]

:whacky: :whacky: :whacky:

dattaswami:

Please be careful before God!!

Whenever, you pray the Lord, be careful about the meaning of the prayer. You must utter that only, which you can really practice. In the prayer you say that the Lord is every thing for you. You cannot practice this. You cannot prove this as long as the Lord remains formless or in the energetic form or as the statue. But when the Lord comes in the human form and asks you to sacrifice a little for His sake, you will go back. For this inconvenience only you deny the human form. You like the statue or formless aspect of or energetic form of God because they cannot ask you for any proof of your prayer. You want that God should believe your prayer and should blindly sanction whatever you ask. You think that God is innocent and should believe whatever you say without any practical proof or test. This is the main reason for the denial of human form of God. When you offer the food to the Lord, the formless God or the energetic form or the statue will not take even a single particle of your offered food. But if you offer the same food to the human form, you will not get back a single particle to eat. This is the reason for denying the human form of the Lord. First you must be sure of the extent of value you give to God. Then, you must be sure of the extent of your faith when you meet the human incarnation and in recognizing Him as the Lord. If you have full value for the Lord and if you recognize the human incarnation, the full value to God must be proved practically in the case of that human incarnation. If you have full value for God but do not recognize the human incarnation, then there is no opportunity for you to prove your full faith to God. In such case your full value to God is false and you are Hippocratic.

Jesus gave full value to God and sacrificed His life for the sake of God. In the end He told the Lord that His will should be done. When He accepted the will of God to be done, He did not feel adversely in the crucification. Since the crucification was the will of the Lord He followed it sincerely because He told that His will must be done. Therefore, whatever is told must be practiced. During crucification He never asked the Lord to protect Him and stop the crucification. If He had asked for it, it would have been stopped immediately by the miraculous power of the God. Therefore, unless you have the determination of practice you should not utter any thing before the Lord. Once you utter you must follow it at least in the case of the Lord. Most of our prayers are lies only and even one percent cannot be practiced. By doing such false prayers one invokes the anger of the Lord only and not the grace of the Lord. Whatever value you have for the God should be proved in practice and such value only should be mentioned in your words while praying the Lord. Whatever, little love you have for God, mention that much only in words. The God will not be displeased for your little love. In fact He is more pleased because you are telling truth before Him. There are some people who call every greater human being as the Lord. The purpose of such usage is only to have some benefit from that greater human being. Thus, the word Lord has become means to achieve the selfish ends in the hands of clever materialistic people. The false human incarnations may be trapped by such clever people. But the real human incarnation will get reversed.

:whacky: :whacky: :whacky: :whacky:

 

[coyote]

Kate, can you be a little more succinct and to the point? I am not understanding you.

 

[Tonks40]

I got two things out of this post:

1. The OP is critizing the offering of the Eucharist
2. He’s telling us that our prayers are not sincere.

Dattaswami, can you please explain your post further and correct me if I’m wrong???

 

[coyote]

Kate, can you be a little more succinct and to the point? I am not understanding you.

Oops, my bad. Sorry Katewithak. I mistakenly attributed you as the OP.

I suppose I should correct. Dattaswami, can you be more succinct and to the point? I am not understanding you.

 

[Corki]

I just checked his/her profile. Out of 20 posts, ALL were thread starters. I wouldn’t hold my breath for more clarification.

 

[cestusdei]

I think we have a wolf in krisha clothing in dattaswami. I think I will follow Christ rather then any false god, including krishna.

 

[Peace-bwu]

You seem to have alot of misunderstandings about the Trinity. The Catholic Church teaches that Jesus is God, part of the Blessed Trinity. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The word “form” doesn’t really work here. One God in three persons.

Jesus was Lord. He followed the Father’s Will, but you have to understand that Jesus could have gotten down from the Cross at any time. He was not abandoned by God. When He said “My God why have you abandoned me” he was repeating the prophetic Psalm which every Jew present would have understood as the outcry from David, and Jesus was the answer that we have not been abandoned, He is the Lamb of God. God can’t abandon Himself.

I am not sure what you mean by rejecting the human form of God. Do you mean rejecting the least of His people, as in not caring for the poor or needy or are you talking about rejecting Jesus, Himself or are you talking about not taking the Eucharist seriously enough to believe in the True Presence, that Jesus Christ is present, Body, Blood soul and divinity, it is Jesus under the humble appearance of Bread. The bread no longer exists it is Jesus Christ, as he said “This is my Body”

What prayers are you talking about in which people do not mean what they are praying? How do you know they don’t mean what they are praying?

I am trying to understand what you are getting at but it seems like you need to understand the Trinity a little better.

My very humble suggestion is to please do more research into the Catholic Faith before criticizing or debating it. What you are saying is not making any sense.