Why would that be necessary? Were they called apostles? Did Paul say that signs, wonders and miracles were the things that mark an apostle? Are you suggesting that Paul was wrong or that there were “unmarked” apostles?
I know it is odd for me to agree with Radical, but in this case I do. I dont’ think the criteria cited here is arbitrary at all. All the Apostles were selected by Christ, and were sent by Him specifically. The criteria set by Peter for the replacement of Judas is quite clear in Scripture.
I dont see how you can say this. Clearly the aspects of sacred tradition that have been retained are those that have been extracted from the pages of Scripture. What reason would you have to doubt that Radical uses the same verses that Catholics do from Corinthians?
Please explain. Actual examples would help.
Who said it was?
Or maybe Linus, or Magus, or etc etc. before 100AD. or after 100AD. Whatever the year is.
where is the catholic (universal) church that was from 33 AD - 325 AD? dissappeared? or become corrupted?
Where in Scripture does it show you that the choiceo of Matthias was not His will?
You are correct. This epistle was penned by Thaddeus, the brother of James.
We are in agreement that God chose Paul, just as He chose the 12, and without lots.
The Church went through a building process. Where Churches were being established in locales to globally established Churches. Now there are support programs in place to put forth willing candidates globally. I know the Knights of Columbus provide financial support for seminarians.
Yes, vocations are most often identified first by friends and family, and the potential candidates are encouraged by them to enter into the process of discernment for such a vocation.
I have a question for you Dokimas. Catholics are held to a scriptural standard on many beliefs, where a Protestant will tell us certain beliefs are not specified in scriptures. Aren’t you doing the same thing by suggesting that God may not have chosen Matthias, despite him actually becoming an Apostles in the early Church as told in the inspired word of God?
The passage shows us that the men chosen and appointed, by Christ Himself, placed their trust in God, through their prayer, to show which of the two He had chosen. How can one take it as the Apostles did this and it was not God’s will?
The same place it says that it is His will.
I’m not denying any such thing. I never said, or at least never intended to say, that Matthias was not an apostle chosen by God. I intended to say that there’s no exact evidence to support Matthias. Jesus did not use lots, as far as we know, for the original 12, nor for Paul. The disciples were not yet filled with the Holy Spirit. They showed over and over and over again they misunderstood Jesus as recorded in the Gospels. Why should we assume that they understood the verse they quoted and how God wanted to fill Judas’ place when they were not yet filled the the Holy Spirit?
Seems quite different than Acts 6, IMO.
What does this say about scriptures to someone who has made them the final authority?
[SIGN]Act 1:24 And praying, they said: Thou, Lord, who knowest the heart of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,
The Church of today, is quite different than the Church in Acts 6. That Church had just started building and the Church of today has been established globablly, beginning with that Church in Acts 6.
This says their are many mysteries not yet revealed that are not important for salvation, for obedience to God, for becoming part of His family, for preaching and living the Gospel of Jesus the Christ.
So, God could knock Paul off his horse but He is limited on how He could have made the lots fall? That’s what it seems you’re choosing to believe.
I don’t get how this ‘difference’ unites the Acts 6 passage with you attempt to show your church does it like the Act 6 church.
I wouldn’t say that, would you?
Not true. Just because you believe something doesn’t make it true.
You can believe what you want so go ahead and believe this. It’s up to you.
I don’t see how either. I don’t see why you are making this statement. I will say, things in the Word of God have different importance than we think they do. For example, why did Jesus say, on the Cross, “I thirst”?I just don’t see how we can look at what we consider to be the inspired word of God and make determinations that some of it is just not important somehow.