Please help - I cannot live with my aunt anymore :(

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Hello everyone. I am an eighteen year old female, and this is a situation I have been dealing with (or at least trying to) for quite some time.

Okay, so let me try to explain this. When I was two, we moved into the house we currently live in now. After a few months of living in a two bedroom double, my parents decided to let my aunt (my mom’s sister) to move into the upstairs apartment. A couple years after that, a friend of the family moved in with us in our apartment (she was my mom’s long-time friend, and because she was living in a crummy house, we felt bad for her and allowed her to stay with us.) The problem is…there were only two bedrooms, so she slept on the couch.

Well, here we are roughly sixteen years later in the same situation (although now, our poor friend has moved to a small bed in our dining room, which she is actually content with anything, but I feel bad).

Now that my living situation has been explained, I will go on to write about what the major problem is; not with our friend, but with my aunt who lives upstairs. The first few years were okay, but by the time I was four or five, she grew to be incredibly jealous of the friend of our family (with whom I had developed a close relationship. She played with me, taught me how to draw, taught me Latin and began to strengthen my Catholic faith.) My aunt is a jealous person and so I had to begin watching what I said about our friend, otherwise she would go back up to her apartment in a huff. My aunt also “taught” me piano, but I eventually had to quit because she was so very nasty as a teacher. I was just a kid; acting in such a manner was completely uncalled for, and my mom began to realize that and eventually put a stop to any future lessons.

The problems have seemed to worsen as I’ve grown older. Somehow, my aunt seems to think she is entitled to tell me what to do and how to live, even though I have parents who are perfectly capable of doing that. I am ashamed to admit it, but I’ve taken to lying to her about almost EVERYTHING I do (my parents know, though). When I date, she cannot know; many things I do at school I do not tell her. For instance, when I do something as simple as writing a paper, I do not tell her or let her see it, because she is so mean about it. One time, I wrote a paper for my criminal justice class in college and received a mark of 100% on it. So she asked if she could read it and I (stupidly) let her. She tore it apart (not literally, verbally) and told me my grammar was all wrong and I had to make a ton of changes. Well, if a college professor saw nothing wrong with it, then who is she to think she outranked him? Ever since then, I never tell her what my assignments are.

She still does the best she can to be involved in everything I do. The second she hears my car door close when I get home from school, I hear her coming down the stairs to ask about how my day was…the problem is, she does not leave for a long time. A little visiting is okay, but I really want to spend time with my parents alone, and she can never seem to understand that. If my mom, dad and I decide to go out somewhere together, and she finds out about it, she invites herself along. My parents do not dare tell her that she can’t, otherwise she will be really “hurt” and bug my mom about it later. So now whenever we go out, we either lie about what we’re doing, or sneak out so she won’t hear us.

She is OCD (I’m not just saying that, it is really true), and it makes everything worse. When I am driving in the passenger seat of her car, she will adjust my seatbelt while she is driving. I mean, HELLO?? I’m eighteen years old! Stop treating me like I’m eight! She questions me all the time about things that go on in my life and I try to keep it as brief as possible. There have been times where she has blown up (and I mean BLOWN up) over nothing, and starting screaming at me. One time, I had to lock myself in the bathroom, while she was banging on the door yelling. My mom was gone, and I took the phone into the bathroom with me and cried hysterically to her. My aunt sincerely apologized, and I accepted, but the problem is that she does not know how to keep from acting like that. That is more of an extreme example, but I feel like we are just acting in a way to keep her from going berserk like that again.

My parents don’t know what to do. My mom has spoken to her about how she smothers me, and she says she will stop…and for a certain period of time she does, but then it starts up again. After a while, I think it gets tiring for my mom and she does not want to have to argue with her sister anymore. My dad gets really angry about my aunt, and I know he will end up yelling to her, which I don’t want either. I’m just at a loss. Sometimes I really want to move out of the house and get my own apartment, but then I think of the expense and also how it would terribly hurt my parents who I love more than ANYTHING else. I just do not know how much longer I can deal with my aunt….she comes down countless times during the day, never leaving us alone…sometimes late at night, too! Another thing is, if I am having an issue at school, she will find out about it and will then go on to try and figure out what I could have done wrong to have caused the problem. Now I try to keep all of the problems between me and my parents, but it is hard, because when she is down, sometimes I have a very depressing issue that I cannot talk about.

Please…if you have any advice for me, I would greatly, greatly appreciate it. But I ask for you to especially keep me in your prayers. I suffer with this quite a lot…I can’t stand having to lie about everything…I just want to be happy. 😦

Thanks in advance, and God bless.
 
Can your parents help you pay for a dorm room at school or a small, one room apartment?

I would say this, don’t lie to her. It’s not worth it, and it’s not worth your time. You don’t owe her any information, so don’t bother covering it up. Just don’t give it out.

Even if you make yourself an enemy of her, that’s her decision. She has little respect for you, even though you seem to be doing what you can to give her space.

Sounds not so much like OCD, but rather, arrogance and possibly OCPD, the personality disorder. That’s just what it sounds like to me.

Pray for her from afar. Don’t have ANYTHING to do with her. Tell her that you deserve respect and will not talk to her when she has her temper tantrums. You deserve better.

Set boundaries. Say that you do not see eye to eye and you cannot talk to her as long as she is nasty to you. Just be honest. You don’t have to be everyone’s friend. I don’t know why your parents put up with such bologna, but they shouldn’t have to put up with it.
 
You’re 18, it’s time for your own apartment.

Get a full time job or better yet a job that supplies room and board.
 
Take out an education loan and get your own place, or go find a recruiter and join the military, but get out of that house as soon as you can.

You are an adult, and given that she is not your mother, you have every right to tell her when something is none of her business and that you refuse to discuss it with her.

Also, as difficult as this may be, advise your mother that if she cannot maintain a boundary between her sister and you, then you will have no choice but to start putting some distance with her as well.

Final thought: where is your father in all of this? He should have put a stop to it long ago.

I joined the military over my parents’ objection. Nothing gets their attention faster than realizing that they can no longer control you.

God bless and good luck.
 
You’re 18, it’s time for your own apartment.

Get a full time job or better yet a job that supplies room and board.
Why should she have to move out? Just because she is legally an adult does not mean she has to go out and rough it on her own. She in college and enjoys the relationship with her parents. I’m certain her parents are more than happy to still have their daughter at home instead of clawing at the walls to get away.

This aunt has been living with her and her parents for a very long time and it’s time the AUNT grows up and gets her own place. I think it’s time for mom and dad to give their sister an ultimatum—shape up or move out.
 
Your parents are very generous to have allowed two others to move into your house.
As it is their house they are the ones who need to deal with the basic issue of your aunt, and they are the people who should protect you and your inner family relationships.

Perhaps you need to be as clear with them as you have been with us.
Perhaps they need to know that you are considering moving out of a situation that has become intolerable and oppressive. Perhaps this realization that your time at home is limited, will help your parents to be more decisive, instead of being hostages to their fear of your aunt in their own home.

You realize that sooner or later everyone needs to leave home whether or not it upsets their parents. Parents also need to keep growing, and one of the challenges that parents of adult children go though is letting go the child and accepting the adult in their child.
It doesn’t mean the love is less. However these life changes occur, whether or no hurtful.

I don’t mean that you need to move out, but perhaps your parents need to realize that the pressure of oppression and deception is causing you to consider doing so.

I realize it’s easy for us to offer solutions or opinions. You and your parents are living in the situation.

God bless you.
You and your family will be in my prayers
 
How old is your aunt and does she work? First, tell you parents that this has become unbearable and admit to them that you have even considered moving out. Then suggest that they make an appointment for her to see a doctor for a complete physical exam.

Your parents need to know how upsetting this is to you and they need to take back their home, not in the physical sense, but in their sense of their authority over you. She is not your parent. I mean this with kindness to them. They must have a heart-to-heart with your aunt as to her treatment of you.

*O Glorious St. Joseph, thou who hast power to render possible even things which are considered impossible, come to our aid in our present trouble and distress. Take this important and difficult affair under thy particular protection, that it may end happily. (mention your request)

O dear St. Joseph, all our confidence is in thee. Let it not be said that we would invoke thee in vain; and since thou art so powerful with Jesus and Mary, show that thy goodness equals thy power. Amen.

St. Joseph, friend of the Sacred Heart, pray for us.*​

*As I arise today, may the strength of God pilot me, the power of God uphold me, the wisdom of God guide me. May the eye of God look before me, the ear of God hear me, the word of God speak for me. May the hand of God protect me, the way of God lie before me, the shield of God defend me, the host of God save me. May Christ shield me today…Christ with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ in me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me, Christ on my right, Christ on my left, Christ when I lie down, Christ when I sit, Christ when I stand, Christ in the heart of everyone who thinks of me, Christ in the mouth of everyone who speaks of me, Christ in every eye that sees me, Christ in every ear that hears me.

Amen. *God Bless.
 
It sounds like a very unfortunate living arrangement and I’m very sorry for your suffering. I’ve been in similiar situations before and I have a piece of advice for you…as hard as it may seem to do this, I’m sure it’s what God would want and that is to OFFER it up to Him! Offer up this suffering that you’re enduring to God. Just give it to Him… Tell Him that if this living arrangement is to be His will then you’ll do it out of love for Him.

There’s a story about St Therese of Liseux who lived with a fellow nun whom nobody liked at all. Apparently she was just gruff and very unpleasant to be around. St. Therese took the opportunity to love her even more. She would go out of her way to sit next to her during Mass and be pleasant and nice to this woman even though inside she suffered greatly when she was around her. It’s these small acts of love and charity, despite our worst sufferings, that make us saints.

You sound like you’re rooted in your faith so I suggest having a sincere talk with Jesus about it in front of the tabernacle. Hang in there and as Jesus has asked of us all, “…take up your cross and follow Me”
 
If you are 18 move out and start your own life.
^ This.

As long as your aunt has been there, and the friend who needed a place to sleep 14 years ago, and is still there, no one is going to draw boundaries for you. Your mother won’t do it with her sister and your father won’t do it with his sister in law. And the woman who is still living in your parents’ home after 14 years??? Tragic.

You can still love your parents and launch yourself into your own life. Yes, it’s scary at first, and it will seem strange not to see them all the time, but think of the FREEDOM!!! Oh, it’s a wonderful thing, the baby bird is meant to leave the nest, you know!

Let this intolerable situation cause you to leave them all behind! Visit when you want to, and LEAVE when you want to! Think about that!

🙂
 
If you do get your own place, you could invite JUST your parents over to visit!

However, if you are in school and have no money for rent and living expenses while in school, do not be afraid to set up your own boundaries. You are an adult and have no requirement to be anyone’s pansy. Tell your parents you must do this for your own mental health. Then explain how you want to be treated by your aunt, and if she cannot respect your wishes, then too bad for her. She does not get to be privy to your life. I would not lie to her, but I would not tell her anything either.

Does she work? Do anything outside the home? Is she disabled? Who supports her?
 
What I’m trying to figure out is why a separate entrance was not created for the aunt’s side of the house, years ago. :confused:
 
If you are 18 move out and start your own life.
I strongly, strongly disagree with this. This world is no place for a woman to be wondering about on her own.

TheRealJuliane, you have 2 sons, SamH, from what I gather is also a man. It is VERY, very different for an 18 yr old guy to be out on his own than for a girl.

I have been in that situation and I got myself in a serious relationship quick! It wasn’t a great thing but it was a million times better than feeling constantly like a prey to members of the opposite sex. Women need protectors and as far as I’m concerned, my daughters can stay with me until they get married or until they’re in an age bracket where men are more mature and respectful and they themselves are more sure of themselve, strong and confident. 18 yr old girls are far too vulnerable, even if they are mature.

You do not want a bunch of college-aged boys knowing that she lives alone. nothing bad ever happened to me in that time but just the feeling of having to “fight guys off” was very frustrating.

Having said all this dear OP, your aunt sounds like a lonely woman. Can you help her find some hobbies, friends, groups etc? I find nothing scarier than single, middle-aged women… They can be crazy manipulative and controling and usually deeply unhappy, even while pretending that they run their lives and the world as they wish, and it can be very exhausting and unpleasant to have someone like that around. People need to live with a purpose, that’s why vocations exist, you poor aunt hasn’t found anything better than pestering you it seems but perhaps you and your parents can help her out. It sounds like your parents gave her a fish instead of teaching her how to fish…discuss it with them.
 
Please…if you have any advice for me, I would greatly, greatly appreciate it. But I ask for you to especially keep me in your prayers. I suffer with this quite a lot…I can’t stand having to lie about everything…I just want to be happy. 😦
You want advice? Okay. First you’re living in a small space for this many adults. You’ve got people sleeping in your dining room, for crikey’s sake. And there are so many boundary and privacy violations going on that are really, really unhealthy. Uninvited corrections on your college papers? Really? Do she also go through your purse and email?

The best advice I can give you is to move out. You don’t have live on your own; if you’re living near a college it shouldn’t be too hard to find 1-2 other responsible young women willing to split the rent with you. Just vet prospective roomies very carefully so that you don’t find yourself in a worse situation than the one you’re in now (e.g., 24/7 parties, women who are irresponsible with paying rent, theft, etc.).

If you don’t have one, get a part-time job so help support yourself, too. It’ll give you marketable job skills and a chance to get some perspective on your situation.

If what you’ve described is in any way accurate, the longer you stay in your current living situation, the unhealthier it’s going to get for you. I’ve known women who’ve turned into emotional cripples because they stayed far too long in toxic family dynamics when it was within their power to leave. You’re old enough to be on your own, and I think it’s time for you to exercise that option.

Luna
 
I strongly, strongly disagree with this. This world is no place for a woman to be wondering about on her own.

TheRealJuliane, you have 2 sons, SamH, from what I gather is also a man. It is VERY, very different for an 18 yr old guy to be out on his own than for a girl.

I have been in that situation and I got myself in a serious relationship quick! It wasn’t a great thing but it was a million times better than feeling constantly like a prey to members of the opposite sex. Women need protectors and as far as I’m concerned, my daughters can stay with me until they get married or until they’re in an age bracket where men are more mature and respectful and they themselves are more sure of themselve, strong and confident. 18 yr old girls are far too vulnerable, even if they are mature.

You do not want a bunch of college-aged boys knowing that she lives alone. nothing bad ever happened to me in that time but just the feeling of having to “fight guys off” was very frustrating.

Having said all this dear OP, your aunt sounds like a lonely woman. Can you help her find some hobbies, friends, groups etc? I find nothing scarier than single, middle-aged women… They can be crazy manipulative and controling and usually deeply unhappy, even while pretending that they run their lives and the world as they wish, and it can be very exhausting and unpleasant to have someone like that around. People need to live with a purpose, that’s why vocations exist, you poor aunt hasn’t found anything better than pestering you it seems but perhaps you and your parents can help her out. It sounds like your parents gave her a fish instead of teaching her how to fish…discuss it with them.
I moved out when I was 18. I had a friend to move in with, and a full-time job. No, I couldn’t afford to live on my own, but sharing the rent and groceries worked out pretty well. After a few years, the roomie and I went our separate ways. By then I had a better job and was on my own.

I do not think this young lady needs to be any more wrapped up in her aunt’s life, trying to do anything with or for her. She is not responsible for her aunt’s choices. If she wants freedom and to be out from under the thumb of the aunt, she needs to leave. There just isn’t any other remedy. There are ways to do it safely. Comes a time in every young person’s life when they have to fly the nest.
 
Please…if you have any advice for me, I would greatly, greatly appreciate it. But I ask for you to especially keep me in your prayers. I suffer with this quite a lot…I can’t stand having to lie about everything…I just want to be happy. 😦

Thanks in advance, and God bless.
You certainly have my prayers. With God’s grace, you will get through this.
 
I strongly, strongly disagree with this. This world is no place for a woman to be wondering about on her own.

TheRealJuliane, you have 2 sons, SamH, from what I gather is also a man. It is VERY, very different for an 18 yr old guy to be out on his own than for a girl.

I have been in that situation and I got myself in a serious relationship quick! It wasn’t a great thing but it was a million times better than feeling constantly like a prey to members of the opposite sex. Women need protectors and as far as I’m concerned, my daughters can stay with me until they get married or until they’re in an age bracket where men are more mature and respectful and they themselves are more sure of themselve, strong and confident. 18 yr old girls are far too vulnerable, even if they are mature.

You do not want a bunch of college-aged boys knowing that she lives alone. nothing bad ever happened to me in that time but just the feeling of having to “fight guys off” was very frustrating.

Having said all this dear OP, your aunt sounds like a lonely woman. Can you help her find some hobbies, friends, groups etc? I find nothing scarier than single, middle-aged women… They can be crazy manipulative and controling and usually deeply unhappy, even while pretending that they run their lives and the world as they wish, and it can be very exhausting and unpleasant to have someone like that around. People need to live with a purpose, that’s why vocations exist, you poor aunt hasn’t found anything better than pestering you it seems but perhaps you and your parents can help her out. It sounds like your parents gave her a fish instead of teaching her how to fish…discuss it with them.
While I disagree that the OP needs to move out ‘just because’ she is 18, I also think you might be generalising the same way. Not all 18 year olds are the same. I understand your concerns but being female and single does not guarantee any of the above. I dont know why there is such a misconception when many single females do quite well in life - in my experience having a serious boyfriend certainly didn’t shield me from danger, though it would have been nice if that was a guarantee (not saying you said this, but I can imagine many young people subconsciously thinking this way)

Also, lets not make it about gender. I think most 18 year olds nowadays are not the most adept at living on their own anyway, male or female. That is even if they can afford it. The OP might find that moving out is the best thing for her situation, or there might be other alternatives. However none of us are qualified to say that this particular 18 year old should or should not live independently.

I do think you need to assert yourself more, OP. Try doing this (within reason) and see if things change at all.
 
I think that as the parents made decisions impacting on their child, all her growing life, that they should get the courage and wisdoms and the determination and plan to protect their daughter from the emotional abuse she is enduring.

She shouldn’t have to leave home before she is ready.

Her parents owe her ‘duty of care’.
She is suffering persecution at the abuse of this aunt. Because it is abuse.

She needs to be clear with her parents how intolerable this abuse has become and no accept procrastination and soft-soaping.
She feels driven to lying and hiding.

She should not have to endure this abuse in the supposed safety of her own home.

:stretcher:
 
I strongly, strongly disagree with this. This world is no place for a woman to be wondering about on her own.

TheRealJuliane, you have 2 sons, SamH, from what I gather is also a man. It is VERY, very different for an 18 yr old guy to be out on his own than for a girl.

I have been in that situation and I got myself in a serious relationship quick! It wasn’t a great thing but it was a million times better than feeling constantly like a prey to members of the opposite sex. Women need protectors and as far as I’m concerned, my daughters can stay with me until they get married or until they’re in an age bracket where men are more mature and respectful and they themselves are more sure of themselve, strong and confident. 18 yr old girls are far too vulnerable, even if they are mature.

You do not want a bunch of college-aged boys knowing that she lives alone. nothing bad ever happened to me in that time but just the feeling of having to “fight guys off” was very frustrating.
My sisters (4) moved out at 18, my wife moved out on her 18th birthday. Somehow all 5 are college educated, happily married and productive mothers and citizens. Bad choices (like living with crazy people) can happen at home or on your own.
my daughters can stay with me until they get married or until they’re in an age bracket where men are more mature and respectful
Just curious - what age does that happen?
 
I didn’t have to read your whole post…but I did and my thoughts were the same: time to move.
I strongly, strongly disagree with this. This world is no place for a woman to be wondering about on her own.

TheRealJuliane, you have 2 sons, SamH, from what I gather is also a man. It is VERY, very different for an 18 yr old guy to be out on his own than for a girl.

I have been in that situation and I got myself in a serious relationship quick! It wasn’t a great thing but it was a million times better than feeling constantly like a prey to members of the opposite sex. Women need protectors and as far as I’m concerned, my daughters can stay with me until they get married or until they’re in an age bracket where men are more mature and respectful and they themselves are more sure of themselve, strong and confident. 18 yr old girls are far too vulnerable, even if they are mature.

You do not want a bunch of college-aged boys knowing that she lives alone. nothing bad ever happened to me in that time but just the feeling of having to “fight guys off” was very frustrating.
^^ Uhhhh, say what? I moved out when I was 18. Granted, I enrolled in college. But I never found living on my own hard, even when I was 19 and had my own apartment. There seems to be a sentiment that women need to be “protected” and that’s not true for a lot of us.

I’m sorry your experience was to be in a relationship to not “feel” like men were after you. You seem to have had those “feelings” rather than actually experience that…Some of us are strong and confident from the get go and do not need anyone else to validate that for us…not that I am all “women’s lib” or anything, but your thinking is from the 1950’s or something. Women today can hold their own.
 
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