Please help me answer this objection to Christianity, fast

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I had to read a letter of a Native American speaking to a missionary around 1805 for my US history class. He asked why the Christian God had not given the Biblical revelation to the Indians, and why the Christian religion is the right way to worship the “Great Spirit”, as he called God. Answer?
 
God has given His truth to all. Jesus came to bring salvation to ALL peoples. So God has given the Biblical revelation to the Native Americans because it has come in Jesus to us all. Arguing which people heard it first is immaterial, and is a weak and futile argument. Refusing to believe just because ‘your’ people weren’t given Jesus directly is a feeble grounds for rejecting His word. His message was and is still being spread across the world to all. In that very missionary this individual was trying to refute, God was delivering His word, the very Biblical revelation they claim to have been after.
 
I had to read a letter of a Native American speaking to a missionary around 1805 for my US history class. He asked why the Christian God had not given the Biblical revelation to the Indians, and why the Christian religion is the right way to worship the “Great Spirit”, as he called God. Answer?
Yes he has. He used missionaries.

St. Jean de Brebeuf, Isaac Jogues and companions, pray for us.
 
But doesn’t that beg the question of Christianity being right?

He asked why the Indians should believe Christianity, which was handed down from the Christian ancestors, and argues that the Indian religion has also been handed down from parents, and doesn’t understand why the Indians should conform to Christianity when their own religion is how they understand God.
 
But doesn’t that beg the question of Christianity being right?

He asked why the Indians should believe Christianity, which was handed down from the Christian ancestors, and argues that the Indian religion has also been handed down from parents, and doesn’t understand why the Indians should conform to Christianity when their own religion is how they understand God.
Why should it? Does the fact that most of the world didn’t have the internal combustion engine except in the West in the 19th century and didn’t spread to the rest of the world, in some places for over a century, mean that the descendants of those so deprived shouldn’t learn to drive cars? This is a silly argument. Truth is truth no matter who passes it on to their descendants or if it never gets passed on to anyone.
 
see the addition to post #3. I may have to discuss this with a crowd of non-Christians today.
I don’t see how this is begging the question.

Throughout salvation history God has revealed Himself to individuals you were then asked to communicate what was revealed to those around these individuals.
 
I don’t see how this is begging the question.

Throughout salvation history God has revealed Himself to individuals you were then asked to communicate what was revealed to those around these individuals.
He’s asking “how do you know you’re right?” That’s the real question.
 
He’s asking “how do you know you’re right?” That’s the real question.
How do we know?

Reason and Revelation.

We have have applied our intellects to understand ourselves and the world around us and God has revealed addition knowledge that is not accessible to our reason.
 
How do we know?

Reason and Revelation.

We have have applied our intellects to understand ourselves and the world around us and God has revealed addition knowledge that is not accessible to our reason.
Okay. That helps. Maybe I won’t be able to find an end-all knockout punch, but I suppose I could answer that the Christian believes that he is doing what is best for the non-Christian.
 
What about Our Lady of Guadalupe who appeared to Juan Diego in 1531?
 
I would say we don’t know… we believe.

There are logical arguments on each side. It’s a matter of what we choose to believe. We have faith as a substitute for proof. For those that don’t believe that’s not sufficient.
Refusing to believe just because ‘your’ people weren’t given Jesus directly is a feeble grounds for rejecting His word.
Perhaps… but consider the perspective.

You believe… many people have believed for years and years and years. Imagine someone you don’t know, speaking a strange language randomly comes and tells you that what you believe is wrong and that “this” which is contrary to what you believe is truth. This is essentially how it would’ve been perceived, would you not have a hard time accepting it?
 
I don’t know much about Guadalupe, and I doubt very many others in my class would understand.
I see. Our Priest quoted Archbishop Sheen recently answering an atheist: “How do you know for sure that God didn’t create the universe and that God doesn’t exist? In order to know that for sure, you would have to be present in each corner of the universe at the same time, all the time (to make sure God is not there). It means that you have knowledge of all things. It means that you must be omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent. So you must be God, and if you are God then I am an atheist”.

This is not directly answering your question but I found that it was a good argument against atheism in general.
 
I don’t know much about Guadalupe, and I doubt very many others in my class would understand.
Then you need to explain that desires everyone to be saved and come to knowledge of the truth (1Tim 2:4) regardless of whether or not they can read the Bible. Guadalupe was how God revealed His Son to millions of people who had no access to the Bible.

The Bible is not necessary to salvation. Grace is, and Jesus Christ alone decides how grace is administered. Any Fundamentalist who says the Bible is necessary to salvation while walking around telling people they can be saved by reciting the Sinner’s Prayer, which is not in the Bible, is a hypocrite.
 
+JMJ+
I had to read a letter of a Native American speaking to a missionary around 1805 for my US history class. He asked why the Christian God had not given the Biblical revelation to the Indians, and why the Christian religion is the right way to worship the “Great Spirit”, as he called God. Answer?
Hi. I think you should read G.K. Chesterton’s works. Almost all of them are already online and most can be found here.

I would like to quote Chesterton’s work The Everlasting Man, because there is an anecdote there precisely about this. Chesterton was promoting a thesis that there was a primordial religion to One God that the whole world, except for the Jews, eventually forgot, and evidence can be found in all religions. He then relates these anecdotes:
A missionary was preaching to a very wild tribe of polytheists, who had told him all their polytheistic tales, and telling them in return of the existence of the one good God who is a spirit and judges men by spiritual standards. And there was a sudden buzz of excitement among these stolid barbarians, as at somebody who was letting out a secret, and they cried to each other, ‘Atahocan! He is speaking of Atahocan!’…
There is a striking example in a tale taken down word for word from a Red Indian in California which starts out with hearty legendary and literary relish: ‘The sun is the father and ruler of the heavens. He is the big chief. The moon is his wife and the stars are their children’; and so on through a most ingenious and complicated story, in the middle of which is a sudden parenthesis saying that the sun and moon have to do something because ‘It is ordered that way by the Great Spirit Who lives above the place of all.’ That is exactly the attitude of most paganism towards God.
And as you read through the work, Chesterton then points to the fact that ALL polytheistic religions have a curious fading away of this “Great Spirit,” focusing more and more into minor deities, along with a tale of the sundering of Heaven from Earth. It was as if something happened all those millennia ago, when God was forgotten by almost everyone and everything except for those tantalizing smidgens of clues in mythologies.

The Jewish, Moslem, and Christian traditions also have a tale like this, and it is called The Fall.

That answers the first question, “why the Christian God had not given the Biblical revelation to the Indians”: they, as all men, knew the Christian God, but they forgot because we all turned away from Him. And the New testament, God willed that it be spread to them by Christians in due time.

But read the rest of the book, it’s excellent, you will not regret it 👍

As for the second question, “why the Christian religion is the right way to worship the “Great Spirit”, as he called God,” in my opinion the best way to answer is point to the Saints! Does he want happiness, even in this life? Then follow the ones whose joy cannot be touched by poverty, disease, persecution, disaster or any other evil that the world can throw at them. There are no people on Earth who were or are happier than them. There are other ways too, like civilization.

God bless!
 
+JMJ+

Hi. I think you should read G.K. Chesterton’s works. Almost all of them are already online and most can be found here.

I would like to quote Chesterton’s work The Everlasting Man, because there is an anecdote there precisely about this. Chesterton was promoting a thesis that there was a primordial religion to One God that the whole world, except for the Jews, eventually forgot, and evidence can be found in all religions. He then relates these anecdotes:

And as you read through the work, Chesterton then points to the fact that ALL polytheistic religions have a curious fading away of this “Great Spirit,” focusing more and more into minor deities, along with a tale of the sundering of Heaven from Earth. It was as if something happened all those millennia ago, when God was forgotten by almost everyone and everything except for those tantalizing smidgens of clues in mythologies.

The Jewish, Moslem, and Christian traditions also have a tale like this, and it is called The Fall.

That answers the first question, “why the Christian God had not given the Biblical revelation to the Indians”: they, as all men, knew the Christian God, but they forgot because we all turned away from Him. And the New testament, God willed that it be spread to them by Christians in due time.

But read the rest of the book, it’s excellent, you will not regret it 👍

As for the second question, “why the Christian religion is the right way to worship the “Great Spirit”, as he called God,” in my opinion the best way to answer is point to the Saints! Does he want happiness, even in this life? Then follow the ones whose joy cannot be touched by poverty, disease, persecution, disaster or any other evil that the world can throw at them. There are no people on Earth who were or are happier than them. There are other ways too, like civilization.

God bless!
I’m in the process of reading The Everlasting Man right now. 🙂
 
I don’t see how this is begging the question.

Throughout salvation history God has revealed Himself to individuals you were then asked to communicate what was revealed to those around these individuals.
You are right in saying that God has revealed himself to individuals but he only fully revealed himself to twelve individuals whom he also appointed as leaders of his Church. Those individuals (sans Judas) as a group, guided by the Holy Spirit, taught others. So the fullness of revelation is taught through the Church, not through individuals.

I think the answer to the original question could be that God fully revealed himself to those who were best able to pass on that information to the rest of the world. Realistically, the communication infrastructure of the American Indians was not the equivalent of that of the Roman Empire. I’m pretty sure that native americans didn’t sail as widely and extensively as the Romans, Greeks, etc.

You gotta ask the native american which culture was in a better position to spread God’s word. If you were God, to whome would you fully reveal yourself. He has to know that much of what the native americans knew about their world was a revelation of God through the natural law.

-Tim-
 
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