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jessiem
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This is a wonderful thread even for current Catholics! As a cradle Catholic who has just in recent years come to truly love the faith, I have genuinely benefited from reading these replies, particularly Rory’s. :yup:
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Dchsknight
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Hey Paige! what is up sister!?
First I was baptist, then at Easter I joined this wonderful acropolis called the Catholic Church!.
This Place, the CC, is a love song from our savior to us. And he desperately wants us to hear him. When i grew up in the baptist side of things we are told we must have assurance of our salvation. Sadly on that side of things, there is none. Protestants have no authority.Protestants have no assurance. If you sin how do you know your forgiven, you just say a little prayer to God and all is well? Hell no! My sister, come home first. get rid of all hindrances in your mind. Get over Mary and her virginity. Get over praying to saints. CAST IT ALL AWAY… and come home. Come and Eat at the table our lord set before us. the rest can wait.
You can learn about the other things later. The one thing you need, absolutely need, is Christ. John 6:35-58 shows us that Christ is the Eucharist. If you get that, then there is nothing else you “need”. Confession is not just something you do, in order to receive communion, and a Note you only have to do confession when in Mortal sin, and if you study up on that your fine, you will know when you have to go. another side note, i don’t think you can go to confession enough, If i wasn’t afraid the priest would laugh at me i would go everyday.Confession is our assurance. when we confess as Christ said, we are forgiven and every evil is removed from us, as far is the east is from the west. Since Christ Gave the power to forgive sin to the church at the end of the Gospel of John, we go to confession to the Priest, because that is were our Assurance is. Then once that is done with, you can go eat with our lord.
Let me tell you, once you step foot into these halls, and take our lord and receive his assurance, you will never turn back. I don’t understand how people can live with out the CC, but then again they are really not living are they?
My sister step out in faith. Come and see, taste and see that the Lord is here with us in the CC. Come and bow before him, confess, be baptized if you have not already, take communiona dn share in our life our glory. Then learn. Learn why, learn how. Once you take your place in these halls, your momma will be waiting for you. She will come and explain everything. She explain, that she did not need any man, she had her Jesus.
Let me tell you what i did… I prayed (I am gonna be very brutally honest here so forgive me) “Father you have guided me for 23 years. You have proctected me, you have let me make my mistakes. Guide me more, Show me the truth, no matter were it is. Then give me the balls to follow it, to not hesitate and follow your truth, fully and with out shame.”
The great thing is that our lord, said “What father would give his son a stone when he asked for a loaf of bread or a serpent when he asked for a fish” so ask and he will give it, but you must follow it.
Lastly, There is a song called “Please come home” from Dustin Kensure, the course goes “Don’t you know son that i love, and i don’t care were you have been, just please come home”
Our God, does not care were we have been, He stands at the road, fighting back tears wondering if we will ever come home, He sends out letters, phone calls, E-mails, songs what ever he can to get us, and he says “I don’t care were you have been, I love you, and I want you, Come home.”
So sister, Come home. Come in to his mighty house. Learn about his mother after that. Just come home, You wont regret it.
First I was baptist, then at Easter I joined this wonderful acropolis called the Catholic Church!.
This Place, the CC, is a love song from our savior to us. And he desperately wants us to hear him. When i grew up in the baptist side of things we are told we must have assurance of our salvation. Sadly on that side of things, there is none. Protestants have no authority.Protestants have no assurance. If you sin how do you know your forgiven, you just say a little prayer to God and all is well? Hell no! My sister, come home first. get rid of all hindrances in your mind. Get over Mary and her virginity. Get over praying to saints. CAST IT ALL AWAY… and come home. Come and Eat at the table our lord set before us. the rest can wait.
You can learn about the other things later. The one thing you need, absolutely need, is Christ. John 6:35-58 shows us that Christ is the Eucharist. If you get that, then there is nothing else you “need”. Confession is not just something you do, in order to receive communion, and a Note you only have to do confession when in Mortal sin, and if you study up on that your fine, you will know when you have to go. another side note, i don’t think you can go to confession enough, If i wasn’t afraid the priest would laugh at me i would go everyday.Confession is our assurance. when we confess as Christ said, we are forgiven and every evil is removed from us, as far is the east is from the west. Since Christ Gave the power to forgive sin to the church at the end of the Gospel of John, we go to confession to the Priest, because that is were our Assurance is. Then once that is done with, you can go eat with our lord.
Let me tell you, once you step foot into these halls, and take our lord and receive his assurance, you will never turn back. I don’t understand how people can live with out the CC, but then again they are really not living are they?
My sister step out in faith. Come and see, taste and see that the Lord is here with us in the CC. Come and bow before him, confess, be baptized if you have not already, take communiona dn share in our life our glory. Then learn. Learn why, learn how. Once you take your place in these halls, your momma will be waiting for you. She will come and explain everything. She explain, that she did not need any man, she had her Jesus.
Let me tell you what i did… I prayed (I am gonna be very brutally honest here so forgive me) “Father you have guided me for 23 years. You have proctected me, you have let me make my mistakes. Guide me more, Show me the truth, no matter were it is. Then give me the balls to follow it, to not hesitate and follow your truth, fully and with out shame.”
The great thing is that our lord, said “What father would give his son a stone when he asked for a loaf of bread or a serpent when he asked for a fish” so ask and he will give it, but you must follow it.
Lastly, There is a song called “Please come home” from Dustin Kensure, the course goes “Don’t you know son that i love, and i don’t care were you have been, just please come home”
Our God, does not care were we have been, He stands at the road, fighting back tears wondering if we will ever come home, He sends out letters, phone calls, E-mails, songs what ever he can to get us, and he says “I don’t care were you have been, I love you, and I want you, Come home.”
So sister, Come home. Come in to his mighty house. Learn about his mother after that. Just come home, You wont regret it.
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Philthy
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Hi Paige!
Not a good place to start the discussion - I highly recommend you start with some basics first and then progressively move into the more difficult topics…like this one.
This is a belief you need to address on several levels. First - did you get this belief from the bible itself or from someone else? If you got it from someone else, where did they get it from and how do we know we can trust them? Secondly, and you may find this outrageous, you need to understand that the Bible does not identify itself as “God’s true word” anywhere, and the question becomes who told you that the Bible (especially the NT) is “God’s true word”? When you start to honestly and logically approach your acceptance of the “Bible” as God’s true word you will realize that at some point the Bible was compiled by someone. Who, exactly, was it that compiled the bible? When, exactly did they do it? How do you know? The answers to these questions form the basis for acceptance of other truths of the faith - even when those truths arent perfectly clear in Scripture.
Again, I wouldnt focus on Mary yet. Start with the basics. But for what its worth, Jesus didnt “come to us” he, in his infinite wisdom, was born of the virgin Mary. Without Mary there would be no Jesus of Nazareth.
We dont need her, but her prayers are beneficial to us - now and at the hour of our death.
It isnt necessary, but it is beneficial. God is all about relationships - He is not all about “you and me only and forget everyone else”. We - you, me and all the Saints - are one body in Christ.
You only “need” to confess to a Priest when you have committed a mortal sin. The forgiveness of sins in the form of binding and loosing was given to the Apostles by Christ. They passed this gift on to their successors by the laying on of hands. Priests are successors to the Apostles and carry on this gift.
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Matt 16:18 Specifically addresses Peters primacy among the Apostles. This primacy stems from the office Peter has as “prime minister” of God’s Kingdom here on earth. If whatever Peter(or the successor to his office) “binds on earth is bound in Heaven” it must be, by definition, Gods Will. How can God “bind” something in Heaven if it is not “perfect”? He cannot - it would contradict his Justice. Therefore, whatever Peter binds must be perfect - aka infallible - and the only way that can happen is if he is protected by the Holy Spirit from error.
Actually, I think that’s enough… for now at least.
There are some fundamentals that you need to agree with - you dont necessarily need to understand them perfectly. It’s practically impossible to even know “everything the Church teaches” let alone agree with it.
Start your search with an understanding of what, exactly, is the Bible? Where and When, exactly, did we get it? And by what Authority was it given to us - exactly?
You can deal with Mary after that…
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Doxiemom
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The best advise given to you was to study the apostle’s creed. That does sum it up very nicely.
If there is one thing that keeps catholics in the catholic church it is our Mass. The celebration of the Eucharist. Once you experience that, it is hard to leave it behind. It is the apostolic sucession of the priests, knowing that this office they have has been handed down since Jesus gave it to the first eleven, then paul. I mean, wow!
I too had doubts about the perpetual virginity of Mary. Then i learned about the jews being the bride of God ( a separate item from us being the bride of Christ). And she, as the mother of God, is that bride of God If she had relations with joseph, it would be adultry.
As far as her being the immaculate Conception, jesus could never have been made flesh from her if she had had any taint of sin. So God removed her original sin prior to her being conceived. he knows us all before we were in the womb. Scripture teaches that.
The Assumption is nothing more than her body being taken up( some call it a rapture). We will all be united with our bodies , made incorruptable. His mom was special, no decay due to Satan was to touch her. Just as Jesus was the second Adam, she is seen as the second Eve, a new eve, still perfect.
Try not to be a perfect catholic, should you choose to Come Home. Be the best Christian who is catholic that you can be.
If there is one thing that keeps catholics in the catholic church it is our Mass. The celebration of the Eucharist. Once you experience that, it is hard to leave it behind. It is the apostolic sucession of the priests, knowing that this office they have has been handed down since Jesus gave it to the first eleven, then paul. I mean, wow!
I too had doubts about the perpetual virginity of Mary. Then i learned about the jews being the bride of God ( a separate item from us being the bride of Christ). And she, as the mother of God, is that bride of God If she had relations with joseph, it would be adultry.
As far as her being the immaculate Conception, jesus could never have been made flesh from her if she had had any taint of sin. So God removed her original sin prior to her being conceived. he knows us all before we were in the womb. Scripture teaches that.
The Assumption is nothing more than her body being taken up( some call it a rapture). We will all be united with our bodies , made incorruptable. His mom was special, no decay due to Satan was to touch her. Just as Jesus was the second Adam, she is seen as the second Eve, a new eve, still perfect.
Try not to be a perfect catholic, should you choose to Come Home. Be the best Christian who is catholic that you can be.
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