Please help with marriage question

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Blessings,
I think the annulment content was for the first marriage. They have to define the state of her first marriage before his marriage can do anything. Prayerfully, God change the heart of his wife to help have a spiritual, loving flow in their relationship. In Jesus name.
Celibacy could jog her out of her attitude??
In Christ’s Love
Tweedlealice
 
In this case relations are a grave sin so I’d want to stop for that reason too.
 
Special validation has nothing to do with the NCW. It is a Vatican action to recognize your civil marriage as valid for Catholic purpose. It is a formal procedure that makes your marriage binding for the rest of your life.
 
He wouldn’t use it as a weapon. As I understand it, he must chose celibacy while living in an invalid marriage. FORGIVE ME ALL! I picture myself as a fly on the wall and can figure out how that would usually play out.
I believe his marriage is invalid till marriage 1 is annulled?
It isn’t funny, in the sense, we are to strive for holiness and purity. We, me included, aren’t successful in all situations in life.
In Christs love

Jesus, Lover of chastity, Mary, Mother most pure, and Joseph, chaste guardian of the Virgin, to you I come at this hour, begging you to plead with God for me. I earnestly wish to be pure in thought, word and deed in imitation of your own holy purity.

Obtain for me, then, a deep sense of modesty which will be reflected in my external conduct. Protect my eyes, the windows of my soul, from anything that might dim the luster of a heart that must mirror only Christlike purity.

And when the “Bread of Angels becomes the Bread of me” in my heart at Holy Communion, seal it forever against the suggestions of sinful pleasures.

Heart of Jesus, Fount of all purity, have mercy on us.
In Christ’s Love
Tweedlealice
 
Think of the Vatican like the Supreme Court of the United States.

Most legal matters are settled in lower courts.

This human lives in a Diocese. The Bishop has selected people to serve on the tribunal for that Diocese. They will make a competent determination of the validity of the marriage.

In fact, the OP may choose up to three Dioceses to hear the case. The Diocese where they now reside, the Diocese where the ex resides or the Diocese in which they attempted marriage.

It is very, very rare for a marriage case to be appealed all the way to the Roman Rota. Stop making this into a bigger undertaking than it actually is.
 
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Special validation has nothing to do with the NCW. It is a Vatican action to recognize your civil marriage as valid for Catholic purpose. It is a formal procedure that makes your marriage binding for the rest of your life.
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So, here’s the thing… you’re responding to a canon lawyer who, when he heard you speak in generalities about a putative process (that, to be honest, I’m guessing none of us here have ever heard of), was really interested to know what in the world you were talking about. (Especially since, in your first post, you claimed that the OP should “join a neocatechumnal community. We are experts in resolving Catholic marriages.”) 😉

Moreover, there already is a process for convalidating one’s marriage… but it doesn’t require intervention by the Vatican. The local diocese handles that process on its own.

So… what’s this “special validation by the Vatican”, then?
 
Hi
The word Police found me guilty as charged. Only time I ever heard the word, was about priests being Celibate. By cracky, you are right. Priests aren’t married and are chaste. I couldn’t use continent (continence). It makes me think of urination. I was a nurse. Continence was preferred. Incontinence was all wet. HAHA
IN CHRISTS LOVE
TWEEDLEALICE
 
Okay, I am glad if the problem can be resolved at the diocese/ archdiocese level. I don’t claim knowledge of the details of the procedure. Especially, when canon lawyers are present who know the corresponding regulations better. But I know of this case and I reported that marriages can be validated. I am sure this is true. Thank you.
 
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I know of this case and I reported that marriages can be validated. I am sure this is true.
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Marriages can be validated. Usually, when both spouses wish the validation (although, in addition, in those cases in which only one spouse wishes it). However, a marriage can never be convalidated when – as in the OP’s case – it’s unclear that both spouses are free to marry. 🤷‍♂️
 
It is not up to the Protestant denomination (or for that matter, non-denomination) to determine if something is a sacrament or not. Nor is it up to the couple.

It is up to the Church. and your comment applies equally to the sacrament of Baptism: either of the above may ony hold that Baptism in only an ordinance. That does not matter to the Church; if the eccelsiall group considers it to not be a sacrament, but uses the Trinitarian formula and water, its is a Baptism, and the Church will not baptize again. The Church determines if it is a sacrament - not someone else.
 
Some people should take lessons in rowing before they stick their oar in the water.

Thanks for your wisdom - and patience! 😉
 
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