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Earlier this year my two parish priests were killed in a car accident. They were very good people, but not the best priests. They were honest products of their seminary formation. I was told by one of these fathers that Christ was “really present” in the community in the same way he was present in the host.

After they died they were replaced by a very orthodox young interim pastor. He bought new hymnals for the church, required the music to meet a certain standard, moved the tabernacle back out into the church, required a crucifix to be present in the church building, and started a rosary before Mass, among other things.

He was not well liked by my very anti-Conservative parish.

We received our permanent pastor in July. He’s a great priest, but not nearly as concerned with enforcing liturgical guidelines and rubrics as the interim pastor was.

Sadly, the parish community seems to have been fostering a growing sense of rebellion since the more traditional priest left. It’s evident in the music; we no longer use the new (more traditional ) hymnals, and the Religious Education director is trying to ban the rosary.

It’s really starting to bother me. I really do love the people at my local parish, but I’m starting to get angry and frustrated at Mass. Things seemed to be changing for the better, and now I can hardly focus on the Eucharist.

Please don’t think I’m being prideful or legalistic, but I think the liturgy is more important than mere taste. I really think the music actually matters, and it bothers me when all the hymns played by our guitarist on a given Sunday are more like community service anthems than praise for God.

It really got to me this evening at the vigil Mass. I’m the sacristan of my parish, and so I serve both Masses on the weekend. I wish there was something I could do.

I don’t want to offend anyone, or come off as an ultra-traditionalist by mentioning anything (and I’m not one!).

I’m starting to dread attending Mass. I get depressed after each service.

I try so hard to remember that I come for Jesus alone, but it’s very difficult at times.

If I leave my parish, the next closest church is in another diocese. I’m in discernment for the priesthood, and I’m well connected where I am now. I don’t want to start over again.

I’d also like to point out that I’m a convert, and it seems a lot of converts struggle with things like this. So if anyone could offer me any suggestions (prayers are also welcome), please do.
 
Prayers I can give- no problem.

Advice? That’s trickier- I don’t have some that is that great. Maybe start by talking to the priest there, and tell him what you told us.

I’d hate to see you leave the parish- they still need someone to stick up for an orthodox liturgy.
 
I wish there was something I could do.
There is something you can do.

You can make an appointment with the new pastor to discuss the issues as you see them. Ask him to be more involved with the liturgy and offer your support to him in coordinating the liturgy-- ask him to put you in charge of it.
 
There is something you can do.

You can make an appointment with the new pastor to discuss the issues as you see them. Ask him to be more involved with the liturgy and offer your support to him in coordinating the liturgy-- ask him to put you in charge of it.
I know I should talk to him. But I keep worrying I’ll say the wrong thing and come off as the local over-zealous, perpetually frustrated convert.

I was the Master of Ceremonies for liturgical stuff under the last priest. But, I’m only 17. I can see where some people in the parish might think I’m ill-prepared to offer any constructive suggestions.
 
Ask the religious director way he/she is trying to get rid of the rosary. Then you should go to your bishop ASAP and press the matter until it is resolved. Music is one thing, but to mess with the Rosary, you mess with me. I am not kidding, you must let your Bishop know about this.
 
Ask the religious director way he/she is trying to get rid of the rosary. Then you should go to your bishop ASAP and press the matter until it is resolved. Music is one thing, but to mess with the Rosary, you mess with me. I am not kidding, you must let your Bishop know about this.
I wish! 😦 She is a religious sister, so it makes things a little more difficult. And she has a lot of support from the people in the congregation.

I can’t really go to the bishop because the rosary is a private devotion, and she isn’t technically violating any law in trying to have it done away with before Mass.

It’s just very upsetting. :mad:
 
I wish! 😦 She is a religious sister, so it makes things a little more difficult. And she has a lot of support from the people in the congregation.

I can’t really go to the bishop because the rosary is a private devotion, and she isn’t technically violating any law in trying to have it done away with before Mass.

It’s just very upsetting. :mad:
I don’t blame you for being upset. I’m mad, and I live 1500 miles away from you!
 
Just a thought:

If your bishop isn’t solid and the seminary isn’t solid - best to get out now and go to a diocese with a bishop who is courageously in line with the teachings of the church. B. Bruskewitz, AB Burke, B. Finn, B. Sheridan, and a few others.

The seminary, if not solidly Catholic, may be your downfall.

In a few years, the bad dioceses will collapse and will have to bring in solid priests from solid dioceses. Go now! HURRY!!

You’re too young for the insanity that reigns in most dioceses across the country.

Check out the solid religious orders: Fathers of Mercy, Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, Fr. Groschell’s order in NY, Mother Angelica’s priests and anyone recommended by any of them.

God bless
Angel
 
If you are in the diocese of Raleigh, they just got a new Bishop not too long ago, and I have heard that good things are expected of him. I don’t live there, but our older son does, and we visit about 3-4 times a year. Go to Mass early and say the Rosary yourself. Invite other like-minded people to join you. Speak with your priest in an inquiring way so you don’t appear to be critizing him. “Father, I was wondering…” Maybe he would be willing to use the more traditional music at one Mass that you could attend. (Probably the 7:00 AM 😛 ) You said that you are the sacristan, so that means you are already involved to some level, so maybe you can begin to increase your involvement. As someone has already mentioned, there are many good & faithful orders of priests if the diocesan priesthood isn’t where you are called, You will be in my prayers.

Peace,
Linda
 
At times, I believe everyone becomes frustrated with thier parish for various reasons. I’ve been there and stood on my soapbox for anyone who would listen (my soapbox lasted 5-6 years), and finally change came about. Others issues come up and at this point, I focus on PRAYER. Through prayer great things can happen and have helped me deal with these earthly issues. God Bless you in your struggle.

You sound young, and possibly do not have the ability to stand on a soapbox for long… let the Holy Spirit guide you in your decision—you are in my prayers.
 
Effect change in small ways, by being faithful yourself and being around others who put Christ first, rather than self.

If you try and change everything now you will just get alienated by the very people you want to help. Most ultra-progressives are not very tolerant of faithfulness to Christ, but to a faithfulness attributed to Christ except it is truly in a desire for self satisfaction. Instead of looking toward Christ for direction they look at themselves or their contemporaries, this leads to a very intolerant way of looking a those who put Christ and His Church first.

You will not get really anywhere by fighting, but only by getting involved and gently effecting faithfulness to Christ. Start a Bible study, pray the rosary and encourage devotion to Christ in the Eucharist. Start small and you don’t have to try and change the entire parish, you are not the pastor.
It is the pastors job to lead, you can just contribute to faithfulness

Today is a good start as it is the feast of Christ the King

In Christ
Scylla
 
Hi everyone;

Thanks for your replies and prayers.

I talked to my pastor after Mass today, and told him my concerns very gently and respectfully. He’s a very good priest, albeit one with a passive personality.

He listened to what I said, but couldn’t really give me much advice. He said he doesn’t like the music sometimes either, but really didn’t appear too bothered by it.

He reminded me that the guitarist cannot use the traditional hymnal because she doesn’t have a copy of the accompaniment book with guitar chords, and that our organist is getting old now. He said we just have to work with what we have.

I understand what he said; but I wish he would at least encourage us to use the more traditional hymns.

I don’t really know what to think. I guess it’s a good thing that he wasn’t exactly against making things a little more reverant.

I’m in the Diocese of Charlotte. I love my bishop, he’s excellent. It’s just my parish I suppose. 😦
 
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