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eleusis
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When one is granted a Plenary indulgence or a partial indulgence is the expiation applied to one singular sinful act or is it applied to the whole trunk of sins, so to speak?
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Vincent
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It’s not even applied to sins, but to the “temporal punishment” that’s the consequence of sins, which may remain after the sins are forgiven.
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netmilsmom
Guest
But isn’t it only up to the moment that one receives it?
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Vincent
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netmil(name removed by moderator):
Sure. That’s all the temporal punishment there is. The future hasn’t happened yet.
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netmilsmom
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True!
(sorry, I was have a Polish Mom Moment!)
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eleusis
Guest
:banghead: Ok, let me try again. When one commits a singular sinful act and repents or goes to confession we know one is forgiven, but they still merit an indeterminate punishment. When one is granted an indulgence, Plenary or partial, is that one singular indulgence applicable only to one sigular sin’s punishment due? Or is a plenary indulgence useful for remission of punishment due for multiple sins?
Example: Johnny habitually cusses and has anger tantrums
. He regrets each and everyone and struggles to end this painful blight on his relationship with God. Saturday he goes to confession (not necessary for venial sins but he wants to obtain extra grace to resist) and then an adoration service of the eucharist trying his best to earn the promised plenary indulgence and even uses the time to say a rosary blessed by the bishop which should earn him a partial indulgence.
That week he had said one cuss word and had lost his anger one time.
Does the plenary indulgence pay the penalty due for both his sins or just one or does he need two plenary indulgences or multiple partial indulgences to pay the penalty for those two sins
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I have reviewed the indulgences laws in the book New Regulation on Indulgences and also the Saint Joseph’s prayer book and the internet but this aspect isn’t addressed. :whacky:
Example: Johnny habitually cusses and has anger tantrums
. He regrets each and everyone and struggles to end this painful blight on his relationship with God. Saturday he goes to confession (not necessary for venial sins but he wants to obtain extra grace to resist) and then an adoration service of the eucharist trying his best to earn the promised plenary indulgence and even uses the time to say a rosary blessed by the bishop which should earn him a partial indulgence.That week he had said one cuss word and had lost his anger one time.
Does the plenary indulgence pay the penalty due for both his sins or just one or does he need two plenary indulgences or multiple partial indulgences to pay the penalty for those two sins
?I have reviewed the indulgences laws in the book New Regulation on Indulgences and also the Saint Joseph’s prayer book and the internet but this aspect isn’t addressed. :whacky:
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Cherub
Guest
I believe that a partial indulgence removes the penalties of part of sins, and a plenary indulgence is like a sin nuke: it wipes everything out. 
Maybe I’m wrong.
Maybe I’m wrong.
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eleusis
Guest
But just one mistake or the whole kit and kaboodle? Like if you stole a wallet or you led a life of stealing wallets does the plenary cover only the punishment of one single wallet stolen or does it cover all punishment for all wallets ever stolen?I believe that a partial indulgence removes the penalties of part of sins, and a plenary indulgence is like a sin nuke: it wipes everything out.
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Vincent
Guest
As I understand it, one plenary indulgence takes care of all of them.
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awalt
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One plenary indulgence takes care of all of them. But be careful, it’s not a “get out of jail free” that you can sin all you want, go to confession, and then do something like read the Bible for a half hour (that’s one of the plenary indulgences) and “bam” you are clean as the new snow.
There are some conditions, the most important being a true commitment to not sin again which only God can judge. Of course we all sin again, as we are sinners; it is the intent that God judges.
That said, someone who led a life of crime say, then truly finds Jesus and the CHurch, could easily be forgiven and receive plenary indulgence through his.her acts all at once - as you saw Jesus forgive in the Bible. Only He knows though :bowdown2:
There are some conditions, the most important being a true commitment to not sin again which only God can judge. Of course we all sin again, as we are sinners; it is the intent that God judges.
That said, someone who led a life of crime say, then truly finds Jesus and the CHurch, could easily be forgiven and receive plenary indulgence through his.her acts all at once - as you saw Jesus forgive in the Bible. Only He knows though :bowdown2:
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