It’s just about making unkind remarks as if they were whispering in school about somebody, but in this case, knowing that sooner or later you’ll read it and feel like everybody doesn’t like you. I just ignore it.
I am still wondering how you rationalize supporting people who aid and abet those who chop our children into little pieces and throw them out with the garbage. Not only do you support then but you seem to take great delight in the prospect that they may take the presidency. Are these dismembered children collateral damage?Wow, what right turn did you take? How do you get from what I said to there?
Which is why some people didn’t understand.
Well, using that logic, anyone who voted in favor of Reagan (who appointed a pro-abortion Supreme Court Justice) and Bush 41 (who did likewise), was voting in favor of killing the unborn. Those who don’t agree shouldn’t “kid themselves.” This is true, even if they may have not admitted to themselves that they wanted a pro-abortion administration.
But you “aide and abet” attrocities yourself. The Princes of the Church specifically identified Saipan, an American protectorate as a dire situation of modern slavery, human trafficing, and widespread forced abortions. The stench of the Abromof scandal, with greed, money, perks, and prostitutes, reaches very high in the GOP indeed.
I really don’t think I have to explain myself to you. I’ve done so in the past. That you do not accept that is clear. Others have clearly stated as well that your arguments vis a vis the Democratic candidates is unfair. Others have also pointed out, including me that Republicans say a lot, and do mostly nothing. I have not found life under Republicans particulary a good thing and that seems to be the case of 70% of the electorate according to the last poll. I do not consider that anything significant will occur on this issue of abortion regardless of who wins. So save your abject hatred for someone else please.
Bravo, Spirit!Spirit,
You wont answer becuase to do so you would have to admit the horror you support. Its much easier to talk about choice and reproductive freedom rather than face the fact you are supporting those who aid and abet the butchering of our children. In fact you goal is to put into office not only those who support this abject evil but want to force us to pay for it. Animals in slaughter houses are disposed more humanely than the 1.2 million annaul victims of “choice” So go ahead and refuse to answer and continue to act in righteous indignation whan one dares to point out the reality of your positions. They’ll be pleny of “catholics” to shout amen and pat you on the back-meanwhile the children continue to die.
If it is indeed the declaration of Holy Mother Church that “if the person has taken a pro choice stance that that person should not really be being looked to as a possible person to vote for,” then the Church should clearly and forcefully articulate that, including whether or not such a vote would constitute a mortal sin. The Church should also call upon any Catholic who has voted for a pro-abortion candidate to seek forgiveness for that vote, and promise to never do so again. The Church should tell any Catholics who plan to vote for any pro-abortion candidate to leave the Church immediately.
If the Church, which is to say the Bishops, had done their duty at the outset, abortion would not be the lucerative industry it is today.
And how would you know? And who would the enforcer be? Seems like it would be better to keep one’s vote to themselves to keep from burning at the stake of the “holier than thou”.
What suprises me is why anyone would need the Church to tell them its wrong to vote for a pro-abortion canidate? At any rate they have made it quite clear except for those who politcs before faith.
They obviously have not made it quite clear, as tens of millions of American Catholics have voted for pro-abortion candidates. Perhaps some of you on this board who have posited that it is gravely sinful to make a vote for a pro-abortion candidate should stand outside your churches after each of the masses and state clearly, “If you vote for X, Y, or Z (pro-abortion candidates) you are commiting a grave sin and should not consider yourself Catholic.” Perhaps then they would get the message, and we can get tens of millions of Catholic to leave communion with the Church, which is where many of those on this post seem to think they belong.
Thanks for the link. I already have a pamphlet copy of this publication. I just think you need to get the word out more clearly, as suggested in my post above.
And I say Amen and Amen.
Most Catholics who vote for pro-abortion canidates not only share that with you but tell you how it is the right thing to do.
Now bob, I thought you knew me better than that. No one tells me who to vote for. As you know I never vote a straight ticket and I am a registered independent. Extremist politics are a real turn off IMHO. Political Parties don’t influence me…the issues that are near and dear to my heart do. I will listen to debates here on CAF and weigh the issues against the candidates, but party doesn’t influence me at all, as both have proven to be a disappointment over all.