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Hello I have a quick question…

If some one were to ask you for 1 word to describe your political views would it be bad to describe them as “Catholic”?

When I say Catholic, I mean that all my political decisions are guided by the teaching of the Catholic Church on Faith and Morals.

But I know the Catholic Church is not in itself a political organization.

What do you all think about this?

Should I instead say something like “pro-life”?

Thanks so much and God bless!
 
Describing your political views as “Catholic” isn’t very informative since the Church doesn’t have a particular political stance. If you tell someone you’re Catholic, they know your stance on abotion and similar issues, but that doesn’t really answer the critical question: “big government or small government?”

A Catholic friend fo mine believes that the best way to feed the hungry and clothe the poor is by creating a welfare state. I disagree, but we are both still following the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Personally, I would describe my political views as “Catholic Conservative.” My political decisions are guided foremost by the Catholic Church, and I believe that small government is the best way to accomplish our Catholic goals.

If I had to describe my political views in one word I would say “Conservative” because that’s more informative. So I don’t think it would be ‘bad’ to describe you political views as “Catholic”, but it’s somewhat nondescript.
 
awww, 😦 , but I like saying my political views are Catholic.
 
awww, 😦 , but I like saying my political views are Catholic.
If someone really did ask me to describe my political views in one word, I would give them two anyway. Some things take more than one word to describe. :cool:
 
Hmmmm, I guess that makes me a Catholic moderate… :hmmm:
 
My religious views are Catholic. My political view is: right leaning libertarian. Now, I usually have to mention to people that I am not in favor of liberal “rights” ideas since these clearly go against the teachings of the church.
 
I think saying your political views are “Catholic” is (historically at least) to say your views are “Monarchist.” As a Monarchist, I support this conclusion. 😃
 
Problem with that is the Church is so divided internally about what we should or shouldn’t do it becomes a quasi-meaningless term.

I mean, you want to see a serious division in politics?

Get a member of Opus Dei to debate a Jesuit.
 
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Get a member of Opus Dei to debate a Jesuit.
Shoot,it’d sure be a shame to watch one of the new guys lose.

John
 
Describing your political views as “Catholic” isn’t very informative since the Church doesn’t have a particular political stance. If you tell someone you’re Catholic, they know your stance on abotion and similar issues, but that doesn’t really answer the critical question: “big government or small government?”
Ah, but how values are implemented are less important than which values are implemented. I really don’t care about squabble over big government vs small government. What I do care about is helping the poor and stopping abortion - neither of which get a lot of attention in political discourse.

Proclaiming one’s political views as Catholic makes sense to me. 👍
 
Ah, but how values are implemented are less important than which values are implemented. I really don’t care about squabble over big government vs small government. What I do care about is helping the poor and stopping abortion - neither of which get a lot of attention in political discourse.

Proclaiming one’s political views as Catholic makes sense to me. 👍
Yes, the"Catholic" part is more important than the “Conservative” part. It just doesn’t tell you as much.

If someone told me that their political views are “Catholic”, I would agree with them. If someone told me that they would use a big government to help the needy as opposed to a small government, I will fight to my dying breath.😉

I wouldn’t seporate the two words because of this.
 
Ah, but how values are implemented are less important than which values are implemented. I really don’t care about squabble over big government vs small government. What I do care about is helping the poor and stopping abortion - neither of which get a lot of attention in political discourse.

Proclaiming one’s political views as Catholic makes sense to me. 👍
The problem is that “Catholic” is not a political viewpoint. By identifying myself as a Catholic conservative, or even more specifically in my case Catholic Republican, I am saying that my political views are conservative/Republican as informed by my Catholic faith. Similarly, there are Catholic liberals/Democrats, Catholic libertarians, Catholic moderates, etc.

It is possible for a Catholic to have any of those political viewpoints. However, in all cases, our Catholic faith and beliefs should inform our politics and not the other way around.
 
i’ve thought about doing that. i end up just saying ‘progressive’ though. i’m a catholic liberal. not to be confused with liberal catholic.
 
Hello I have a quick question…

If some one were to ask you for 1 word to describe your political views would it be bad to describe them as “Catholic”?

When I say Catholic, I mean that all my political decisions are guided by the teaching of the Catholic Church on Faith and Morals.

But I know the Catholic Church is not in itself a political organization.

What do you all think about this?

Should I instead say something like “pro-life”?

Thanks so much and God bless!
Pat Buchanan could describe his political views as Catholic

Nancy Pelosi could describe her political views as Catholic

Labels are flawed, regardless of how you apply them.

The best thing to do is to figure out what the Church’s social teaching is on the issues of the day and then stand on that teaching and avoid labels one way or the other.
 
The problem is that “Catholic” is not a political viewpoint. By identifying myself as a Catholic conservative, or even more specifically in my case Catholic Republican, I am saying that my political views are conservative/Republican as informed by my Catholic faith. Similarly, there are Catholic liberals/Democrats, Catholic libertarians, Catholic moderates, etc.

It is possible for a Catholic to have any of those political viewpoints. However, in all cases, our Catholic faith and beliefs should inform our politics and not the other way around.
You make a good point. I guess I personally don’t find traditional labels (conservative/liberal/libertarian etc) to really capture my set of values - what I consider important.

I agree that our Catholic faith should inform our politics. I guess I don’t hear much about it from politicians and pundits, which disappoints me.
 
Pat Buchanan could describe his political views as Catholic

Nancy Pelosi could describe her political views as Catholic
Which is why it is helpful to describe them as Conservative, Liberal/Democrat, Progressive, whatever. That way we know what sort of Catholic they are…politically.
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Labels are flawed, regardless of how you apply them.

The best thing to do is to figure out what the Church’s social teaching is on the issues of the day and then stand on that teaching and avoid labels one way or the other.
I disagree, primarily because you are oversimplifying. You make it sound as though you can take a given issue (e.g. minimum wage) and determine the exact political standing of the Church. It doesn’t work that way. There are multiple ways to implement the various social teachings of the Church.

Labels help us to at least get an idea of the person’s political philosophy. We shouldn’t then jump to conclusions and think we know what their stance will be on every issue, but we at least have an idea.
 
The best thing to do is to figure out what the Church’s social teaching is on the issues of the day and then stand on that teaching and avoid labels one way or the other.
I disagree, primarily because you are oversimplifying. You make it sound as though you can take a given issue (e.g. minimum wage) and determine the exact political standing of the Church. It doesn’t work that way. There are multiple ways to implement the various social teachings of the Church.

Labels help us to at least get an idea of the person’s political philosophy. We shouldn’t then jump to conclusions and think we know what their stance will be on every issue, but we at least have an idea.
I am doing anything BUT oversimplifying, in fact.

First of all, you need to look at what the Church’s teaching actually IS on a given subject (vice what so many “social justice types” claim the Church teaches) and then form your opinion on that issue in light of the Social Doctrine of the Church. That takes quite a bit of work, far more work than to apply a label: “I’m a Conservative…I’m a Liberal…I’m a Libertarian…I’m a Progressive.”

Then you need to see what a given politician has to say on a given subject. What he thinks of the desirable end state. How he plans to achieve that desirable end state. Again, that takes actual WORK. First of all, a Catholic voter needs to DEMAND that the person running for the privilege of serving the Catholic voter take a clear, well defined stand on important issues…most of them, of either stripe, just blurt out sound bytes, and never annunciate an actual position that displays any sort of understanding. Then, the Catholic voter needs to take the time to understand both the annunciated position and the candidate’s past position on the issue.

Take, for instance, the example you mentioned (all of this is IMHO/FWIW/YMMV, by the way): a minimum wage. An understanding of social doctrine teaches us that employers have a moral obligation to pay their workers a living wage – one that will allow them to house, feed, clothe, and educate their families, plus provide the ability to put away a moderate amount for a rainy day). So far, it sounds like the Church is in favor of a minimum wage. However, a deeper understanding of the subject shows that a government-imposed minimum wage is, in fact, a violation of the principle of subsidiarity.

This makes sense as a living wage for a family of six living in the DC area is a lot different than a living wage for a single teenager living as a dependent in a more rural area. It would be rather difficult to enforce a government mandate for that kind of variability.

So a politician who recognizes the importance of paying a living wage while rejecting across-the-board government mandates (i.e., one size fits all), could have multiple positions, all of which could be in concert with Catholic social teaching. There are numerous other issues that dovetail onto this one (minimum wage): immigration policies, government contracting rules, healthcare, tort reform, housing, and so on. There are a diversity of positions that can be taken while maintaining a position that is aligned with the teachings of the Church and that was the OP’s original question, wasn’t it?
 
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