Poll: 46% of Doctors Would Quit if Pro-Abortion Health Care Bill Passed

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Washington, DC – A new poll that should cause significant concerns for backers of the pro-abortion Senate health care bill finds nearly half the nation’s physicians would consider quitting if the bill becomes law. The New England Journal of Medicine survey indicates 46 percent of doctors would consider leaving their practice.

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Hmmmm… and we have a shortage of doctors now? What’s going to happen then? I understand numerous students are debating whether they should continue in their medical degrees if the “healthcare” bill passes.
 
That is a good thing to hear. Give Mr. Obama something to think about other than his own silly(shall I say?) ideas.
 
The article makes no sense. It’s got nothing to do with abortion. It’s about doctors getting more patients and less pay. They’re not threatening to quit over abortion; they’re threatening to quit over money.
 
SugarMagnolia said:
The article makes no sense. It’s got nothing to do with abortion. It’s about doctors getting more patients and less pay. They’re not threatening to quit over abortion; they’re threatening to quit over money.
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You’re right. According to Foxnews this morning, it was due to the extra work and less pay.

What’s sad is that the General Practicioners are the ones who will be quitting.

There’s an added problem that this will cause. With less general practicioners, there will be added stress on Emergency Rooms. More ER visits means higher health care costs.
 
SugarMagnolia said:
The article makes no sense. It’s got nothing to do with abortion. It’s about doctors getting more patients and less pay. They’re not threatening to quit over abortion; they’re threatening to quit over money.
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Some may quit or be fired over abortion. I know that in my specialty, if I were to examine a previously viable aborted infant, I would feel compelled to provide information regarding the manner of death … as in ‘non-natural, non-suicide, non-accidental’ … and that leaves only one choice, and that’s homicide. How long would I remain employed using this tactic is anyone’s guess. (Any ideas on how I might challenge my anticipated termination in the courts?)

But this article does point out just one of the several major flaws in the Obama plan. They believe that rising trend in healthcare costs can be reversed simply by unilaterally paying providers less, without ANY dialogue with providers on how to responsibly decrease utilization with minimal impact on quality, and minimal impact on jobs (yes, there are millions of ordinary people employed directly or indirectly by healthcare). To selectively squeeze the providers while leaving regulatory, pharmaceutical, medical equipment and malpractice communities virtually unchecked is not a recipe for success. The corrupt will have a distinct survival advantage. Paper clips for root canals, anyone?

And yes you can argue that physician compensation is excessive, that is, after you sacrifice the best 11 to 15 years of your life in college/medical school/residency, and then work 60-80 hour weeks in your career. At that point you have the credibility to criticize your peers for not electively taking the pay cut you have undoubtedly volunteered for yourself, all while agreeing to work harder than ever.

Funny, in this whole debate no one has even suggested something like giving sizeable tax breaks for the care of uninsured patients. Why? Because there is no control or power to be wielded in doing so. A plan like this could work, and work fairly well. The only loser would be the government, so obviously it’s a non-starter. It is sickening to me to see how we are manipulated into considering only the choices they give you.

There are other major flaws in Obama’s plan. Not that he cares. His vision for America comes straight from the radical angst in college campuses of the '60s. And it’s not about healthcare, or cap and trade, it’s about control.
 
I have a hard time believing they’ll just quit like that. Something doesn’t add up. Also, it’s not like once this passes it’s there FOREVER and EVER. There will be other presidents, other members of congress, new this and that proposed…this really isn’t the end of the world.
 
mariahloves said:
I have a hard time believing they’ll just quit like that. Something doesn’t add up. Also, it’s not like once this passes it’s there FOREVER and EVER. There will be other presidents, other members of congress, new this and that proposed…this really isn’t the end of the world.
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True, the number 46 is probably higher than the actual. Many doctors will have 2nd thoughts. But what about

a) those who planned on being a doctor for only 10 more years or so? This can be enough to push them into retiring a lot quicker.

b) those in school who are chased off into another degree plan. I’ve heard two young adults tell me they are planning their future AROUND this plan.
mariahloves said:
Also, it’s not like once this passes it’s there FOREVER and EVER. There will be other presidents, other members of congress, new this and that proposed…this really isn’t the end of the world.
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So, how many other entitlements have EVER been rescinded by Congress?
 
My brother-in-law, a heart specialist, has already bought a house in his country of birth. He plans to move back there if “Health Care” passes.

The government cannot even run “cash-for-clunkers:” How do they expect to run “Health Care?” I do not think that the government could run a hot dog stand without losing money.
 
CPA2 said:
My brother-in-law, a heart specialist, has already bought a house in his country of birth. He plans to move back there if “Health Care” passes.

The government cannot even run “cash-for-clunkers:” How do they expect to run “Health Care?” I do not think that the government could run a hot dog stand without losing money.
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For evidence of this statement, look at
  1. Amtrack.
  2. the US Post Office.
 
NotWorthy said:
For evidence of this statement, look at
  1. Amtrack.
  2. the US Post Office.
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Amtrack only serves a small portion of the US.

The US Post Office is the least reliable and most inconvenient way of sending anything.
 
SugarMagnolia said:
The article makes no sense. It’s got nothing to do with abortion. It’s about doctors getting more patients and less pay. They’re not threatening to quit over abortion; they’re threatening to quit over money.
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While the primary reason listed is financial, i’m sure 5-10% of doctors who are devout Catholics will leave rather than be forced to conform to immoral procedures like abortion or referrals for abortion.
 
Mark77 said:
While the primary reason listed is financial, i’m sure 5-10% of doctors who are devout Catholics will leave rather than be forced to conform to immoral procedures like abortion or referrals for abortion.
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What about Catholic Hospitals? The largest one (out of 2) in my city is a Catholic Hospital (St. Elizabeth).
 
There is so much wrong with this poll, it’s a joke:

1: The sample is drawn from the MEDICUS FIRM’s data base. This is a recruiting firm. It is not drawn from the population of all practicing physicians. (In fact, some of them already are retired.)

2: There was a 53% response rate to the survey. Any survey with a 47% nonresponse rate is not worth the paper it is written on.

3: The survey was done by email.

4: The survey was done in 12/17/2009, when information about what really would be in the bill was unknown - not that things are much better now.

Finallly, the word abortion does not appear anywhere in the article, survey, …
 
SugarMagnolia said:
The article makes no sense. It’s got nothing to do with abortion. It’s about doctors getting more patients and less pay. They’re not threatening to quit over abortion; they’re threatening to quit over money.
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Precisely. Rather misleading OP.
 
Oh come on, that many physicians will not leave their practices. This is like yelling the sky is falling. They won’t leave because there is still money to be made in the business, albeit perhaps not as much. Maybe they will be closer in income to the rest of us.
 
Will pro-life physicians be denied government or insurance company payment for their services if they refuse to perform abortions or refer patients to an abortionist?

If that happened, and I was a physician, I would leave the profession in shame that my colleagues had succumbed to such an evil policy promoted by Congress and the President of the United States. A physician can make a decent living teaching or writing or doing almost anything else he sets himself to do.

As a taxpayer, I would also be ashamed to know that the same government that will indict the murderer of a pregnant woman for a double homicide will gladly pay the hired killers of the unborn. I would be paying taxes for that?
 
I find some comments on this site to be so far from being Catholic, let alone Christian. How can you be “pro-life” yet not care what happens to that life after it leaves the womb? As Catholics aren’t we supposed to care for our brothers and sisters? Isn’t that what Jesus taught? You are all so focused on abortions that have yet to take place, but seem to care little about those who are actually dying today because they lack the resources to be able to afford healthcare. In a rich country like the US, that is a sin. According to the teachings of Christ, it is our moral oblibation to care for one another. This health reform bill is not perfect, but it is a start. http://www.bustedhalo.com/features/for-i-was-ill-and-you-cared-for-me/

The absence of health insurance creates a range of consequences, including lower quality of life, increased morbidity and mortality, and higher financial burdens. This paper focuses on just one aspect of this harm—namely, greater risk of death—and seeks to illustrate its general order of magnitude. In 2002, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) estimated that 18,000 Americans died in 2000 because they were uninsured. Since then, the number of uninsured has grown. Based on the IOM’s methodology and subsequent Census Bureau estimates of insurance coverage, 137,000 people died from 2000 through 2006 because they lacked health insurance, including 22,000 people in 2006. urban.org/publications/411588.html

The blatant hypocrisy and hatred in the messages here leave me wondering what happened to the values our religion once held as important.
 
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