Poll: Gift of praying in tongues

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I was raised Charismatic, but after reading the book Charismatic Chaos, my views have changed. I think God gave the gift to spread Christianity. Since then, it has not been in practice.
I am not sure what that book says but I am assuming it has judged the Charismatic movement to not be a blessing.

“You shall know them by their fruits” says the Lord.

For my part, I have experienced so many good fruits from this renewal that I wouldn’t want it to ever stop. May God be glorified, in the mass and at all times.
 
I was raised Charismatic, but after reading the book Charismatic Chaos, my views have changed. I think God gave the gift to spread Christianity. Since then, it has not been in practice.
Use the gift - don’t use the gift…that’s your thing.

God did give the gifts back then to console and to guide, this is true…

What do you think is happening in these times? Every day that passes brings us closer to the return of Jesus Christ and closer to the things that must happen before His return.

The great apostasy being one of them. You don’t think that alone is sufficient reason for God to "pour out His Spirit [in those days] ?

Do as you will but, I will continue to use the gifts that God has granted me for His greater glory.
 
Well, I voted that I dont believe in it. I’ve seen people do it…and…I just dont buy it…I cant help thinking that they WANT it more than they HAVE it, know what I mean? And WHAT ARE they saying??? People compare the rosary to the scripture about ‘babbling’, but really? Speaking in tongues is wayyyyyy more babbling than the structured prayer.

I cant help but watch people when they speak in tongues and think that theyre possessed by the devil or something…its creepy…eyes all rollin’…tongue spittin’ talkin crazyness…I cant sit there and watch that…get me the heck out!
 
Hi Plan19, I don’t pray in tongues but I know people who do, and I don’t think that they do it because it’s an “evidence-based reinforcement for faith.”** I’ve asked some people why they pray in tongues and one of the responses was that sometimes we don’t know what to pray for, and this is the Spirit interceding through us.** Others have said it’s to intercede in a powerful way. But nothing about needing evidence… so i’m not sure that this is actually how people see praying in tongues.

God bless
This scares me-

Its pretty clear that we are NOT supposed to babble…and we should very MUCH know what/who to pray for, or be able to hold prayer/conversation in a structured manner with the Lord…a clear thought process, not just random whatevers goin’ thru your brain…

Matthew 6:7
And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.

And as far as ‘spirits interceding’, how could they know what spirit that is if they cant even have a REAL conversation with em’?

2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for** Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.**

I’m jus’ sayin’…
 
This scares me-

Its pretty clear that we are NOT supposed to babble…and we should very MUCH know what/who to pray for, or be able to hold prayer/conversation in a structured manner with the Lord…a clear thought process, not just random whatevers goin’ thru your brain…

Matthew 6:7
And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.

And as far as ‘spirits interceding’, how could they know what spirit that is if they cant even have a REAL conversation with em’?

2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for** Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.**

I’m jus’ sayin’…
At least you’re [just sayin’] and no real brain activity is at work here.
 
Just wondering, since you obviously meditate and seriously ponder these ‘messages’ from this spirit- what is it telling you? Or do you just get a ‘feeling’?? How do you translate the mumbo jumbo into a clear message? How do you know your interpretation is correct?

How do you KNOW that the jibberish isnt something COMPLETELY different than what you FEEL it is?
 
I was asking you to give me one. Please. But if you cant even have a casual conversation, or state your position about something you feel so confident about -that says something.

but again, I’m jus’ sayin’
 
I think we really, really have to be careful in making any sort of judgement to the action of speaking in tongues.

I am sure some are faking … or rather get all excited because some else is doing it, etc (please note, I have NEVER been around people speaking in tongues…NEVER…)

However, I have prayed the Rosary in tongues. I believe. I’d rather not describe my experience because I have previously described what happened to me to someone on this forum and was told to go see a doctor…maybe I should 🤷 LOL!

Just be careful in making some sort of judgement on this topic, is my opinion.

Dana
 
I think we really, really have to be careful in making any sort of judgement to the action of speaking in tongues.

I am sure some are faking … or rather get all excited because some else is doing it, etc (please note, I have NEVER been around people speaking in tongues…NEVER…)

However, I have prayed the Rosary in tongues. I believe. I’d rather not describe my experience because I have previously described what happened to me to someone on this forum and was told to go see a doctor…maybe I should 🤷 LOL!

Just be careful in making some sort of judgement on this topic, is my opinion.

Dana
OF course! and THANK YOU your 2 cents is MUCH appreciated! Its definitely NOT my intention to judge as we know only our Lord Christ can do so- but I do believe the topic is up for exploration, and anyone who IS doing such a thing, or does ANYTHING for that matter, should do some self exploration as to why, instead of just ‘accepting’ it and going along with it…because like I said, how DO you know? To just shut out the possiblity that you could be wrong and doing something very dangerous is very irresponsible.
 
I think we really, really have to be careful in making any sort of judgement to the action of speaking in tongues.

I am sure some are faking … or rather get all excited because some else is doing it, etc (please note, I have NEVER been around people speaking in tongues…NEVER…)

However, I have prayed the Rosary in tongues. I believe. I’d rather not describe my experience because I have previously described what happened to me to someone on this forum and was told to go see a doctor…maybe I should 🤷 LOL!

Just be careful in making some sort of judgement on this topic, is my opinion.

Dana
Praying the rosary in tongues! I love it. That’s a great idea. Very creative and free.
You are very right about the judging that goes on. God’s resources are limitless.
I can’t imagine why people want to criticize God’s gifts.

Some things can only be known through experience.
Suspicion is not an adequate judge. Doubt is not an adequate judge. Dread is not an adequate judge. Trying to figure it out is not an adequate judge. Praying in tongues involves the desire and free-will yielding of one’s tongue to God. It is hard for most all of us because we have done so much damage with our tongues in the past. I think the bible identifies it as an “unruly member.” The bible also asserts that God’s ways are not our ways. If a gift like tongues comes from God, then it would seem to be something we should be open to. And to be immersed in the Holy Spirit brings that possibility.

So the receiving of the Holy Spirit it would seem is a prerequisite. If we can receive Jesus on a daily basis in the Eucharist, then we can also receive the Holy Spirit in a special way. I am not speaking of the Sacrament of Confirmation. That is with the anointing with oil and is our Seal.

A Catholic priest while teaching once put it this way: You get the Holy Spirit at Baptism and Confirmation, but when does He get you?

That’s why a lot of believers seem to experience it later in life. They yield to God when the desire wells up in them. It’s a wonderful experience of Holy Intimacy.

Thanks for sharing about that rosary in tongues, DJgang. Keep going.
 
I have spent more time thinking about speaking in tongues while reading this thread than I ever have before. I once attended a service at a Pentecostal Church and many people were doing it. They also felt compelled to leave their seats, go into the aisles and dance frantically. My impression was that it was all fanatic behavior. Since that time, tongues have spread throughout most Christian denominations.

I recently read an article which stated, that while in a trance, Buddhist monks mutter in an unintelligible voice. The article offered no explanation. Is it possible that the utterances are caused by reaching a meditative state?

I have always felt that it was not my job to interpret someone’s gift. If one thinks that he has received a gift and that it brings him closer to the Spirit, I am happy for them. 👍
 
This off course somewhat, but I want to make a point. Lets say someone recieves some of the higher gifts, discernment of spirits, prophecy… for a period. In this day and age, how is one to build up the Church with these gifts remembering that public revelation ended with the Apostles? How does a lesser gift of tongues build up the Church then? It may support one’s self, but as a community, what is it’s purpose? Thanks, tim
 
Oh I wish an apologist would come and hit up this thread.

A buddhist monk speaking tongues?

Buddhism… buddhism…its not meditation thats the problem…we as catholics meditate on the rosary, and the mysteries…meditation is a very good thing to do…

But buddhists meditate to ‘empty’ themselves…clear their minds…they think inner peace comes from cleanin’ out everything- quite the opposite of catholics/christians who think that is achieved by FILLING yourself up, and filling yourself up with Christ and His love.

As catholics we are warned NOT to practice these kind of meditations, buddhist…yoga…etc, because by EMPTYING yourself of your own thoughts, or of Christ, you OPEN yourself up- and become vulnerable to other spirits.

Quite frankly put a Buddhist who doesnt believe in Christ is OBVIOUSLY not speaking His tongues, so who’s words IS he speaking???

This is NOT about judgement here people…I’m not saying that NO ONE can speak in tongues…but i think the ‘speaking in tongues’ in the way I’ve seen and heard of it, just random babbling and spitting and what not- is not it.

Isnt ‘tongues’ another way of saying language? Now if someone I knew, only spoke english, prayed to God, and then busted out in some ancient Hebrew- then I’d definitely trip out and say he was ‘speaking in tongues’. But with no translator, or translation, you have NOO idea what the heck your going on about…

I’d love to know if there have been any Church approved instances of people speaking in tongues and what that sounded like, or what they said.
 
I think we really, really have to be careful in making any sort of judgement to the action of speaking in tongues.

I am sure some are faking … or rather get all excited because some else is doing it, etc (please note, I have NEVER been around people speaking in tongues…NEVER…)

However, I have prayed the Rosary in tongues. I believe. I’d rather not describe my experience because I have previously described what happened to me to someone on this forum and was told to go see a doctor…maybe I should 🤷 LOL!

Just be careful in making some sort of judgement on this topic, is my opinion.

Dana
I have spent more time thinking about speaking in tongues while reading this thread than I ever have before. I once attended a service at a Pentecostal Church and many people were doing it. They also felt compelled to leave their seats, go into the aisles and dance frantically. My impression was that it was all fanatic behavior. Since that time, tongues have spread throughout most Christian denominations.

I recently read an article which stated, that while in a trance, Buddhist monks mutter in an unintelligible voice. The article offered no explanation. Is it possible that the utterances are caused by reaching a meditative state?

I have always felt that it was not my job to interpret someone’s gift. If one thinks that he has received a gift and that it brings him closer to the Spirit, I am happy for them. 👍
I would have to say that uttering in an unintelligible voice is not saying that a B. Monk is speaking in tongues. And, no, one does not have to reach a meditative state to speak in tongues. You can be driving a car or at your desk at work.

It’s not about the intellect. It is the interior act of yielding your tongue to God.
This is in your spirituality. Jesus is the Baptiser. Go to a life in the Spirit Seminar at a Catholic Church.

A spiritual attitude of dread should be checked at the door.

Open wide the door to Christ. Flame of Christ has a nice youtube presentation.
He has cited it earlier.
 
Here’s some thinks to consider…
Yes gifting are available, but flesh can distort/abuse them…
Their for the building up of the church(believers)…
Their available to those who desire a deeper walk and ministry in the Lord…
They are all available to be used anytime as the Lord leads…
Praying in tongues and in the Spirit is available to those who desire it…Like for me there are sometimes when I just travail in intercession with a groaning that I feel is the Holy Spirit praying what I can’t…
Giftings flow off/on through ministry…I have involvement in prayer ministry where the gift of words of knowledge came for who I am praying for…

Great blessings in Christ as you desire to go deeper in Him…Also, please be charitable in your responses as we will all give account one day…peace to you…K
 
‘Speaking in Tongues’ is mild demonic possession.

This was very evidence at the ‘Toronto Blessing’ sessions a few years back where people laughed uncontrollably, clucked like hens, growled like dogs/lions and finally started ‘speaking in tongues’

We had a mild example of it earlier in this thread when folk began violently to insult each other. Sad to say the earth is literally humming with different level spirits whose only task/satisfaction is to confuse folk & draw them away from Jesus Christ. Vodoo, seances, spiritualist sessions, reiki, New Age circles, all attract these spirits to find an opening & inhabit a gullible human.

We need always be on our guard against such manifestations. If you are often inexplicably angry, lustful, envious or covetous then you can be 90% sure a spirit is prompting you in that direction. Each time it becomes stronger & more in control. You always retain your free will but it can become weakened without prayer.This is why constant prayer & mortification of the flesh (denial of physical pleasure/comfort) are necessary. The St. Michael prayer works instantaneously , I found.
 
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