Not at all true. You are ignorant of the history of the situation.
How ridiculous. I just quoted the direct words of the Pope which said that the reason why the SSPX is invalid is because of the doctrinal questions.
It may surprise, shock, and infuriate you when the Pope uses these dogmatic discussions to clarify Vatican II teachings in favor of the SSPX position on how they are to be interpreted.
If the Pope agrees with the SSPX interpretation of Vatican II then why are you not in full communion with him. In fact, Vatican II can be interpreted in the light of tradition. Which is of course how it was intended to be interpreted right from the beginning. If wicked modernists took occassion to twist and distort the words of Vatican II to push their agendas then that is the problem of wicked modernists not Vatican II.
Hopefully, you will not go into schism at the prospect the SSPX may be correct on these issues and if so, hopefully, you will say prayers of repentance for persecuting those whose only intention is to preserve our Catholic faith.
One of the key attributes of the Catholic faith is obedience to the supreme pontiff. Augustine said as much
Now this Head is Christ Himself, Whose viceregent in the Church is the Sovereign Pontiff. Wherefore schismatics are those who refuse to submit to the Sovereign Pontiff, and to hold communion with those members of the Church who acknowledge his supremacy.
Thatās exactly what the SSPX do. They refuse to have communion with Novus Ordo Catholics who are in full communion with the Sovereign Pontiff. Also the SSPX refuse to obey the Sovereign Pontiff. Therefore by Augustines definition the SSPX are schismatics. Well and truly.
You do believe Augustine donāt you. If you are in the business of preserving the Catholic faith then you certainly must agree with him.
I am looking forward to having to live with the result of these discussions. I hope you are also.
Itās no bother to me. I am in full communion with the Sovereign Pontiff. The SSPX are not. I hope and pray for the sake of the SSPX themselves that they will obey and submit to the Sovereign Pontiff. You are the one who needs to worry about these discussions. If the negotiations fail then worst case the SSPX will go down the sedevacantist track which Lefebvre toyed with. The SSPX people have a habit of going down this track when they donāt get their way as we saw with the horrendous SSPV debacle. My assessment is that if as a result of the talks the SSPX were to come into full communion with the Pope a good third of their number would break off and become the SSPY or SSPZ. Whereas if talks utterly fail and the SSPX were to become sedevacantist, then a good third of the SSPX will leave and join the FSSP.
Msgr Fellay will not like either option. He is in the business of building up and maintaining his empire, so he will make sure that he orchestrates no change as a result of the talks. He will seek to maintain the status quo.
This lamentable twilight zone of being neither quite in or neither quite out of the church will continue for a long time to come and these talks are all a waste of time.
Here is another interesting quote for the schismatic SSPX to consider.
By Augustine quoting Jerome
āat the outset it is possible, in a certain respect, to find a difference between schism and heresy: yet there is no schism that does not devise some heresy for itself, that it may appear to have had a reason for separating from the Church.ā
So you reckon there is no heresy in the SSPX then why are they seperated from the church? What is their excuse. My advice to SSPX members is to give the organisation the flick and go and join the FSSP which are in full communion with the church.
