Pondering about consciousness; your thoughts?

[lemondiesel]

Consciousness is experiences, wakefulness, awareness for recognizing the present (allowing for reflection of the past)

my brain and heart keep me alive, but what does my mind do? Deaf people can think with imagery, and can learn what the object is through sign language but how could they explain something like music? blind people can have an “internal dialogue” but if you asked them to describe what makes that music they could only tell you what it “looks” like after they touch it. They couldn’t tell you a full detailed description like someone who can see AND hear. I mean i could tell you everything about that music, what plays it, how it happens, yada yada.
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So what about someone who is deaf and blind? what is their “inner dialogue?” What is their experience of the present? **How would they know what they were touching? If something attacked them how would they explain it? Would they just think some “monster” in a world they live in attacked them?

 

[lemondiesel]

adding to this thought.

Isnt our conscious here because of senses? Seeing and hearing are ‘remote’ senses that tell us about distant parts of our environment by receiving waves. The other ‘contact’ senses all involve physical contact with the things that are sensed. chemical senses are the olfactory (smell) and gustatory (taste) sensations. chemical senses are sometimes associated with vivid mental images and recollections, needing a high mental process.

so not only do senses play a role in consciousness, but they would play a role in our subconscious and involuntary responses to the environment.

 

[Just_Lurking]

I can see how senses might be necessary to develop consciousness, but now that I am conscious, I think I would still be conscious if somehow I lost all my senses.

 

[4Horsemen]

It seems that the medical field is learning more about consciousness thanks to researchers in Britain and Belgium who made a study of people with extreme brain injuries. Patients, who were thought to be in a PVS, showed brain activity indicating awareness and, in some, a desire to communicate.

In an article I’m looking at in National Right to Life News, a young woman–thought to be in a vegetative state–was “placed in a functional magnetic resonance imaging scanner and asked to imagine herself exploring her home or playing tennis.” NRLN quotes The New York Times: “When doctors asked her to think of playing tennis, areas of her motor cortex leapt to life. When asked to think of being in her house, spatial areas in the brain became active.”

The article states that the MRI technique highlights areas of the brain that received increased blood flow when in use.

A couple of months or so ago, I read of a man who was trapped in this state after a car accident and knew all along what was going on around him for 23 years until a researcher demonstrated that he was conscious the whole time.

The more we learn the more we realize how much we don’t know about consciousness.

 

[lemondiesel]

I can see how senses might be necessary to develop consciousness, but now that I am conscious,** I think I would still be conscious if somehow I lost all my senses**.

yes you would be conscious, but would you be aware?

I am trying to say that our consciousness allows us to “live” in the past and the future, but none of those are real. All it comes down to is living in the now, which a lot of us do a pretty ****** job at.

 

[4Horsemen]

My guess iss that if you lost all of your senses, you wouldn’t be conscious anymore, at least to things in the outside world. Yet, God may be working somehow in the soul which, itself, is “conscious”, that is, aware of God and what He allows awareness of.