Pope benedict resigning!

[Sailor_Kenshin]

Yes, his age in years is up.



Look, what other corporation would force a man of 85 to continue as CEO? It’s beyond his physical strength, even with all the saints in Heaven praying for him, his body is nothing but human.

Yes, it’s not as though his predecessor stayed on well after the onset of ill health.

Oh, wait.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

Yes, it’s not as though his predecessor stayed on well after the onset of ill health.

Oh, wait.

Please stop this derogatory talk. It’s not at all charitable. Both Popes are Holy Fathers of the Church, and both have been embued with the Holy Spirit to fulfill their Holy Duties. JPII was himself, and Benedict XVI is himself. Neither should be held up to the other.

 

[callmeChris]

On 1 February 2005, the Pope was taken to the Gemelli Hospital suffering from acute inflammation and spasm of the larynx, brought on by a bout of influenza. He was released, but in late February 2005 he began having trouble breathing, and he was rushed back. A tracheotomy was performed, allowing him to breathe more easily, but limiting his speaking ability, to which he reacted with evident frustration during a failed attempt at public speaking from the window of the hospital ward.
On Palm Sunday (20 March 2005) the Pope made a brief appearance at his window and silently waved an olive branch to pilgrims. Two days later there were renewed concerns for his health after reports stated that he had taken a turn for the worse and was not responding to medication. By the end of the month, speculation was growing, and was finally confirmed by the Vatican officials, that he was nearing death. He was not rushed to the hospital again, however, and equipment for medical monitoring was brought to his residence in the Vatican, where he was followed by a team of top physicians. He developed sepsis and multiple organ failure, and died in his apartment on 2 April 2005 at 84 years and 319 days of age, after over 25 years as Pope.

I’m not bashing our dear Benedict but exactly what could he be suffering from that he chooses to give up one of the most important offices in the World?? (even though the world doesn’t admit it)

 

[LittleHannah]

I’m not bashing our dear Benedict but exactly what could he be suffering from that he chooses to give up one of the most important offices in the World?? (even though the world doesn’t admit it)

He deemed it necessary because of his health. Read his statement if you haven’t already.

 

[pete_29]

That’s it. After resigning 8 years on the Seat of Peter, Our beloved German Shepherd will hang up the Papal Mitre on Feb, 28. For reasons unknown, but many speculate it is due to sickness. I personally don’t believe in that hogwash excuse. I don’t mean to be conspiracy theorist on here but something s definitely up. And I suspect something big is coming, and it’s not for the better. I’m actually fearing who will take his place :ehh:

nytimes.com/2013/02/12/world/europe/pope-benedict-xvi-says-he-will-retire.html?_r=0

I, for one, wouldn’t be comfortable saying that any Pope is lying.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

I’m not bashing our dear Benedict but exactly what could he be suffering from that he chooses to give up one of the most important offices in the World?? (even though the world doesn’t admit it)

Um, he’s 85 years old and has prayed and spent time in an examination of conscience. His doctors have told him no more transatlantic travel, which would mean he could not visit countries in the rest of the Catholic world. I don’t know if you have anyone in your life who has reached the age of 85, but I do. My FIL is going to be 82 in a month, and my stepmom is 92. Both of them are frail, and even my FIL who has been very active, realizes the limits he now has to accept. Even someone who has been very active and has taken good care of himself or herself will have ailments of the flesh after the age of 80. We are not immortal you know!

And this is NOT a political office that someone campaigns for.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

Here is a prayer for our new pope:

May the Lord preserve him and give him life, and make him blessed upon earth and deliver him not up to the will of his enemies. Lord, source of eternal life and truth, give to our new sheperd a spirit of courage, knowledge, truth, wisdom, and love. By governing with fidelity those entrusted to his care, may he, as succesor to the apostle Peter and vicar of Christ, build your Church into a sacrament of unity, love, and peace for all the world. We ask this through our Lord Jesus Christ your son, who lives and reigns with you in the unity of the Holy Spirit, one God, forever and ever.

AMEN!!!

 

[TarkanAttila]

I’m not bashing our dear Benedict but exactly what could he be suffering from that he chooses to give up one of the most important offices in the World?? (even though the world doesn’t admit it)

Are you thinking what I’m thinking?

Not that the Holy Father is resigning for some more sinister reason but…

that something wicked this way comes? That has no necessary relationship to His Holiness?

Perhaps the Apocalypse is upon us? After all, whether for health or any other reason, when has a Pope resigned before? Only 600 years ago. It’s not that I suspect the Pope, or the resignation…

… it’s the odd juxtaposition of the events.

 

[callmeChris]

Are you thinking what I’m thinking?

Not that the Holy Father is resigning for some more sinister reason but…

that something wicked this way comes? That has no necessary relationship to His Holiness?

Perhaps the Apocalypse is upon us? After all, whether for health or any other reason, when has a Pope resigned before? Only 600 years ago. It’s not that I suspect the Pope, or the resignation…

… it’s the odd juxtaposition of the events.

THANK YOU!!! :yyeess:

 

[LilyM]

I’m not bashing our dear Benedict but exactly what could he be suffering from that he chooses to give up one of the most important offices in the World?? (even though the world doesn’t admit it)

Are you thinking what I’m thinking?

Not that the Holy Father is resigning for some more sinister reason but…

that something wicked this way comes? That has no necessary relationship to His Holiness?

Perhaps the Apocalypse is upon us? After all, whether for health or any other reason, when has a Pope resigned before? Only 600 years ago. It’s not that I suspect the Pope, or the resignation…

… it’s the odd juxtaposition of the events.

His Holiness is ‘suffering’ from nothing more ‘sinister’ than a dose of the same saintly humility which led his predecessor Celestine V to do the same thing. And his stepping down no more betokens the Apocalypse than Celestine’s did.

Get a grip on yourselves.

 

[DAML72]

The sun will keep shining, the world will keep hating us as it hated Christ, and the Holy Spirit will keep protecting and guiding the Church regardless.

Be not afraid

So true!

 

[callmeChris]

My only fear is placing an Antichrist on the throne of Peter, that’s all I’m saying. If Benedict wants to step down for his own good ok, but let’s focus on the fact that we will be placing a SUCCESSOR on Peter’s throne. In today’s day and age (more than ever we are in the days of the Apocalypse) we cannot be sloppy. We need to pray extra hard that we have a humble, and holy man as Pope, we cannot afford to have a misguided shepherd misguiding the universal flock. Now go ahead, and tell me that we don’t have devils in the Vatican just waiting, HOPING to ascend to the highest places and carefully manipulate everything.

 

[DAML72]

My only fear is placing an Antichrist on the throne of Peter, that’s all I’m saying. Is Benedict wants to step down for his own good ok, but let’s focus on the fact that we will be placing a SUCCESSOR on Peter’s throne. In today’s day and age (more than ever we are in the days of the Apocalypse) we cannot be sloppy. We need to pray extra hard that we have a humble, and holy man as Pope, we cannot afford to have a misguided shepherd misguiding the universal flock. Now go ahead, and tell me that we don’t have devils in the Vatican just waiting, HOPING to ascend to the highest places and carefully manipulate everything.

I’m pretty sure the Holy Father has heard of the prophesy of St. Malachy. Did you ever stop to think that maybe he is resigning now so that he can have some influence and sway over the installation of the new pope and/or a purging of any evil elements in the Vatican? Or maybe he doesn’t believe in it, in which case, I don’t think we should either.

 

[3DOCTORS]

I would avoid the New York Times article with its typical muckraking insinuations about sex scandals. It’s a shameful piece of journalism and downright depressing. He is simply resigning because his advanced age could prevent him from properly fulfilling his duties. Try a Catholic source for this news:

en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/02/11/pope_benedict_xvi_announces_his_resignation_at_end_of_month/en1-663815

Yes, the NYT article is typical of their style which editorializes as much as it reports the news. I could go through that article with a highlighter and point out the clever, subtle snarks and slants against the Church - the insidious ones are sometimes worse than the blatant ones. :banghead: This does not mean that I claim there were no problems or issues, just to be clear. It simply means that the secular (often liberal) media will take the opportunity to get some digs in whether they’re true, honest, important, necessary, or kind (acronym THINK) or for that matter, relevant to the news story itself. An editorial is the place for the opinions, not a news article; that’s how I was raised, but then I’m old.

 

[LilyM]

My only fear is placing an Antichrist on the throne of Peter, that’s all I’m saying. If Benedict wants to step down for his own good ok, but let’s focus on the fact that we will be placing a SUCCESSOR on Peter’s throne. In today’s day and age (more than ever we are in the days of the Apocalypse) we cannot be sloppy. We need to pray extra hard that we have a humble, and holy man as Pope, we cannot afford to have a misguided shepherd misguiding the universal flock. Now go ahead, and tell me that we don’t have devils in the Vatican just waiting, HOPING to ascend to the highest places and carefully manipulate everything.

They cannot be worse than some of our past Popes at any rate. The Church progressed in spite of them, and we need to trust that Our Lord and the Holy Spirit are more than capable of handling anything and anyone thrown at them.

 

[Megan7]

That’s it. After resigning 8 years on the Seat of Peter, Our beloved German Shepherd will hang up the Papal Mitre on Feb, 28. For reasons unknown, but many speculate it is due to sickness. I personally don’t believe in that hogwash excuse. I don’t mean to be conspiracy theorist on here but something s definitely up. And I suspect something big is coming, and it’s not for the better. I’m actually fearing who will take his place :ehh:

nytimes.com/2013/02/12/world/europe/pope-benedict-xvi-says-he-will-retire.html?_r=0

 

[Russ_of_Tokyo]

I shouldn’t be surprised at all this talk of conspiracies and secret information being withheld, but if there is anything not being disclosed, it is probably how serious is the Pope’s physical and mental deterioration, which he has cited as the reason for his resignation.

For a balanced approach, here is Jimmy Aikin’s take on the situation:

jimmyakin.com/2013/02/first-thoughts-on-pope-benedicts-resignation.html

 

[TarkanAttila]

His Holiness is ‘suffering’ from nothing more ‘sinister’ than a dose of the same saintly humility which led his predecessor Celestine V to do the same thing. And his stepping down no more betokens the Apocalypse than Celestine’s did.

Get a grip on yourselves.

That’s not what I meant.

If you look at Benedict’s statement, he notes that strength of mind and body are necessary for guide the barque of Peter due to the challenges of the day. I’ve seen Benedict. He’s mighty strong as it is.

I wonder if the challenges the Pope is facing are currently growing more massive.

And I wonder if it is the head of the dragon, so to speak. More plainly, I wonder if Benedict is bowing out not because he is weakening, but because the Enemy is getting stronger. I wonder if we might not be needing a… Super-Pope to combat the coming forces of evil.

In other words, I think the Apocalypse is upon us, and Benedict knows it, and good though he is (and he has been a good Father to us), he’s bowing out so a greater Pope can take the throne and aide us in the battles we’ll be facing in the coming years.

I mean, what with the gay “marriage” laws being passed, laïcité in the French government threatening the Church in France, abortion being pondered in Ireland, and the contraceptive mandate here in the USA, I wonder if Satan is mustering his forces. If he’s launching an attack, using increasingly irreligious and anti-religious governments as his puppets, no doubt the Lord wishes to protect us. Perhaps even slay the dragon once and for all. An exceptional Pope would certainly be conducive to aiding this.

 

[LilyM]

That’s not what I meant.

If you look at Benedict’s statement, he notes that strength of mind and body are necessary for guide the barque of Peter due to the challenges of the day. I’ve seen Benedict. He’s mighty strong as it is.

I wonder if the challenges the Pope is facing are currently growing more massive.

And I wonder if it is the head of the dragon, so to speak. More plainly, I wonder if Benedict is bowing out not because he is weakening, but because the Enemy is getting stronger. I wonder if we might not be needing a… Super-Pope to combat the coming forces of evil.

In other words, I think the Apocalypse is upon us, and Benedict knows it, and good though he is (and he has been a good Father to us), he’s bowing out so a greater Pope can take the throne and aide us in the battles we’ll be facing in the coming years.

I mean, what with the gay “marriage” laws being passed, laïcité in the French government threatening the Church in France, abortion being pondered in Ireland, and the contraceptive mandate here in the USA, I wonder if Satan is mustering his forces. If he’s launching an attack, using increasingly irreligious and anti-religious governments as his puppets, no doubt the Lord wishes to protect us. Perhaps even slay the dragon once and for all. An exceptional Pope would certainly be conducive to aiding this.

I repeat, His Holiness is doing nothing, not a thing, but what Pope St Celestine V did, and probably other Popes before him.

Their actions did not portend an imminent Apocalypse or especial attack of Satan. Neither does his.

Yes the job is more difficult, more travel, more meetings, more communication is now involved, as the flock is increasingly large and widespread. What has that to do with any supposed increase of evil in the world?

Again, Get. A. Grip.

 

[Contra_Mundum_1]

My only fear is placing an Antichrist on the throne of Peter, that’s all I’m saying. If Benedict wants to step down for his own good ok, but let’s focus on the fact that we will be placing a SUCCESSOR on Peter’s throne. In today’s day and age (more than ever we are in the days of the Apocalypse) we cannot be sloppy. We need to pray extra hard that we have a humble, and holy man as Pope, we cannot afford to have a misguided shepherd misguiding the universal flock. Now go ahead, and tell me that we don’t have devils in the Vatican just waiting, HOPING to ascend to the highest places and carefully manipulate everything.

But Chris, popes have been succeeding one another for 2000 years. The bad ones did not manage to destroy the church, despite their best efforts. Of course there are enemies in the Vatican. I’m sure there have always been. Let’s not forget that Judas was one of the Apostles.

Please don’t forget that God is in charge. Why are you so pessimistic? Why are you convinced that the next pope will be bad? I believe that the college of cardinals will choose the right man. I can’t explain my optimism, but hopefully I can help you to see things in a more positive light. It is better that he resigns than go on and have nasty people scheme and take over in the Vatican. Since BVIX was in the Vatican during the pontificate of JPII, I’m sure he saw what it was like when enemies take advantage of a weakened pope. Maybe he wants to avoid that, and in doing so is placing his faith in God. It is His church after all. I think we should also place our faith in God and pray, rather than waste time with bad secular sources and their gossip. Or unapproved prophecies and visions.