Pope calls Catholics and Baptists to Common Witness

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“Obedience to the Lord’s will should constantly spur us, then, to strive for that unity so movingly expressed in His priestly prayer: ‘that they may all be one. so that the world may believe.’ For the lack of unity between Christians 'openly contradicts the will of Christ” Pope Benedict XVI

VATICAN CITY (CNA) - Baptists leaders from around the world met with Pope Benedict XVI this morning at the Vatican as the second round of Baptist-Catholic talks continued. Saying that the lack of unity among Christians contradicts Christ’s will, Benedict XVI told the Baptist delegation that the world needs “our common witness to Christ and to the hope brought by the Gospel.”
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Full Article: catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=26130

I put this in NCC because it also involve Baptists
 
Does anyone know how this type of Baptist is diferent than Southern?
 
ralphinal said:
Does anyone know how this type of Baptist is diferent than Southern?
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My former Baptist denomination would regard them as liberal baptists. Southern Baptists we saw as … not quite as awful as the ones who would join the BWA.
whart they really were like, I have no idea.
but particular(reformed) baptists and fundamentalistic Baptists wouldn’t have had anything to do with them. The FEBCC, [what I grew up with] regarded the BWA members with grave suspicion
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Interestingly the CANADIAN CONVENTION OF Southern Baptist CHURCHES is a member of the BWA as are the NorthAmericanBaptists which tells me that it is fairly mainstream
 
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That theme, the Pope told the delegates, "offers a promising context for the examination of such historically disputed issues as the relationship between Scripture and Tradition, the understanding of Baptism and the Sacraments, the place of Mary in the communion of the Church, and the nature of … primacy in the Church’s ministerial structure.”

There will never be unity on these issues with the catholic church so long as it holds to their understanding of these doctrines in relation to scripture and history.
 
justasking4 said:
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That theme, the Pope told the delegates, "offers a promising context for the examination of such historically disputed issues as the relationship between Scripture and Tradition, the understanding of Baptism and the Sacraments, the place of Mary in the communion of the Church, and the nature of … primacy in the Church’s ministerial structure.”

There will never be unity on these issues with the catholic church so long as it holds to their understanding of these doctrines in relation to scripture and history.
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Your doubt troubles me. I do believe they these doctrines will be resolve if guided by the Holy Spirit to settle the issue. I posted this not to debate. I posted this to aside the difference and put together what Catholics and Protestants have in common.
 
That theme, the Pope told the delegates, "offers a promising context for the examination of such historically disputed issues as the relationship between Scripture and Tradition, the understanding of Baptism and the Sacraments, the place of Mary in the communion of the Church, and the nature of … primacy in the Church’s ministerial structure.”
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There will never be unity on these issues with the catholic church so long as it holds to their understanding of these doctrines in relation to scripture and history.
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In other words; what the Pope calls “unity” is really just submission of the will to him.🤷
 
Protestant101 said:
In other words; what the Pope calls “unity” is really just submission of the will to him.🤷
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Nope, its having them understand each other. Most Baptists, and other Protestant denominations, do not understand what Catholics teach and hold to the myths and misunderstanding, which IMO is why there is so much strife and even hatred in some cases between them. I think the Pope is merely trying to bridge that gap to start understanding each other instead of just speculating from a distance.

No one submits to the will of the Pope. No one. As Christians, we submit only to the Will of God.
 
I was channel surfing a few months back and stopped at TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Network) low and behold, Paul (the founder of the network) was talking with a Catholic Priest about the basics of BOTH branches of the faith.

Just to have a priest on that network having a genuine discussion on the basic misconceptions on BOTH parts must have had old Satan shaking in his old red boots, as this website we are all on must also have him nervous.

Perhaps in our lifetime we may truly see each other as Christ see us…as one big crazy mixed up flock of sheep 😃

“THEY WILL KNOW WE ARE CHRISTIANS BY OUR LOVE, BY OUR LOVE…YES THEY’LL KNOW WE ARE CHRISTIANS…BY OUR LOVE”

one of my favorite songs to sing, especially when played to the beats of a Native American drum…quite moving. 🙂
 
Protestant101 said:
In other words; what the Pope calls “unity” is really just submission of the will to him.🤷
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Where in the document or statement that says it is a submission to him? I guess you are one Protestants who doesn’t want dialogue with your Catholic brothers and sisters.
 
homewardbound said:
Nope, its having them understand each other. Most Baptists, and other Protestant denominations, do not understand what Catholics teach and hold to the myths and misunderstanding, which IMO is why there is so much strife and even hatred in some cases between them. I think the Pope is merely trying to bridge that gap to start understanding each other instead of just speculating from a distance.

No one submits to the will of the Pope. No one. As Christians, we submit only to the Will of God.
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Well, said, homewardbound.

I think that is what most Non-Catholic Christians that dialogue with the Pope means submission. I have to confess that the idea that we are submitting ourselves to the Pope (as a Catholic) is very new to me. For one, I do not submit to the Pope period. I** recognized that he is the successor of St. Peter**, and have been given special charisma granted to him by God to be a good spiritual leaders to all Catholics.

Submission **doesn’t describe the role we Catholics ** have towards our Pope. It’s far more than that. Our submission, however, is to God alone. I think years of Anti-Catholic bias may have distort the general view of Protestants concerning the Papacy. I don’t blame them for being misguided and being bias.

I do see the dialogue between the Baptist leaders and the Pope Benedict XVI as a means of understanding the faith we both share in Sacred Scripture, Tradition, and History.

I do think Protestants who object to this need to see this in a positive light. For one Jesus Christ will and had prayed this his “Church” be One.

I have a questions for those who object to the Pope’s motives. Do you want to deny Jesus’ prayer that we be all one? If you do, you find yourself against God.
 
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