"Pope considering adding ‘sin against ecology’ to Church’s catechism"

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vz71 said:
Simply highlighting things that are already sins.

This begs the question…why?
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Because we need to recognise our complacency on the issue and not just pay meaningless lip service to it.

I remember when Pope StJPII first established Divine Mercy observations, people were saying then “we know what mercy is. Why this diary business?” Then when he created the Luminous Mysteries again “why do we need anything added to the Rosary?”

These ‘innovations’ are a vital work of the Church to ensure we aren’t just paying lip service to serious obligations.

I would love to see people give themselves over to the teaching authority of the Church and see how they are transformed by it. I know how much I have changed since Pope Francis has blessed us with his unique charisms.
 
Thanks.

Ya know, for a long time I kept hearing things like “you need to leave this to priests and canon lawyers”

But I think even priests and canon lawyers are starting to realize that the things coming out of this papacy are just too vague, unclear, ambiguous, unsound, etc.
 
Thank goodness this Pope is so in tune with earth ecology. Creation has been abused for too long! Earth has the bruises to show. Of course it is a sin. Considering the impact on billions of lives in future generations it should be one of the worst sins. Thanks pope francis! But why did it take this long!?
 
As stated, the Catechism is already sufficient to address these issues.

Spend time actually educating, relating, explaining our Teachings, instead of trying to ad things and agendas.

It’s all there… apply it!
 
I suppose the whole of morality could be summed up in two commands from Jesus. Yet we have more than that in the Catechism. It’s about time the earth got its due.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
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VanitasVanitatum:
But most of this sounds like it’s aimed to big companies which most people have no control over.
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Or major political leaders, who are as I understand it responsible in large part for the mess that’s going on with the Amazon.

This isn’t aimed at the average well-educated earth-conscious Catholic in the USA.
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And will we be expecting Big Companies and Big Governments to go to confession for their ecological sins, and save their corporate souls…? 🤔
 
Have you read this stuff?

Its language is about “civil and state authorities”, “ecology”, “economic sectors”, so on and so on…

Who are these lawyers he is speaking to?
 
I’m so confused by the opposition to the pope on this site. If he wants to change the catechism to reflect a sin we are more aware of now, good on him! It’s a welcome sight. I’m so confused why it would bother anyone that the pope wants to fo this! We should be happy about it!
 
Because he needs to address the division in the Church over our own Teachings first… we are in no condition to teach the secular world about their issues.

We have our own issues to deal with.

First bring union within his own brotherhood of Bishops
 
VanitasVanitatum said:
But most of this sounds like it’s aimed to big companies which most people have no control over.
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The pope was speaking to a group of lawyers. There are some other tangential things to big corporations as well. He mentioned some of them, for example: governments, protestors, indigenous people of the effected lands. All of those people can benefit from having more moral authority at their disposal through documents such as Laudato si’ and the CCC.
 
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It’s not just about him. The Church has a college of Bishops. And they are divided.
 
The problem I see here is too many people are starting to personify the earth. Which starts a slip to elevating the created realm (Earth) to that of Creator. Which Saint Paul talked against doing. A sin is against God and fellow man kind. Which the faith already deals with abusing the natural world. But with comments like “its about time the earth gets her dues” this is wrong.
 
Off the top of my head, I think Pope Benedict also made appeals for the protection of the environment, and iirc the Vatican (or a hall or ?) also made environmental friendly changes to it’s place by solar panels etc. This is nothing new really - sins against the environment considering we are stewards of the earth and all it contains.
 
Weserthy said:
This could be OK…but the question is, how would “sins against ecology” be defined?
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A lot of sin has ambiguity attached to it. It may explain why we see so many is-this-a-sin threads on CAF. Wherever there’s gray areas, we consult with our confessors. That’s how it’s been since the birth of our Church.

If the Pope follows through with this, then we follow through, too. We’re Catholics and, as such, take Magisterial authority seriously.
 
Many ecologists have made the point that having children is bad for the ecology (carbon footprints and all that).

God says “Go forth and multiply”.

I sense a disturbance in the force…
 
Lysander said:
In the 1970’s they said we have ten years. In the 1980’s they said ten years. Now they say ten years.
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Theres a reason the date keeps shifting back, technology and regulation catch up. Why do you think even ICE only cars are increasingly powered by small bore, turbo engines, or why they are increasingly made from lighter materials? Those sort of changes buy more time, however we are past the point of making small incremental changes, we need to radically change how we consume in the west.
 
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