Pope Francis: annulment decisions should not take years [CWN]

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In extemporaneous remarks made to participants in a course sponsored by the Roman Rota, Pope Francis said that justice demands that the Church’s decisions on the validity of marriages …

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In extemporaneous remarks made to participants in a course sponsored by the Roman Rota, Pope Francis said that justice demands that the Church’s decisions on the validity of marriages …

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Couldn’t agree more (with the “not taking years” part). His remarks make me think that a possible procedural change could be the allowance of written testimony, which would eliminate the need for people to travel. I’m not sure how much difference this would make, though…since there are some places that already do testimony-by-mail even though it is not supposed to be done that way.

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It seems simple enough, a procedural change. Citing the article, 150 miles of travel :eek:
 
It would be nice if the decision was quicker. My annulment took 2 years due to finding witnesses that were suitable for the case.
Love the Pope.
It’s like your future is somewhat on hold because your ability to remarry and remain in good standing and Commune in the Church is at stake. For those that care and go through the process it’s very heart wrenching.

Mary.
 


  1. The pope makes a good point. For most Latin american countries annulment decisions take between 9 to 12 years average. Some are way over than that (I have an aunt who took 15 years). So while I can understand that it takes some time 12-15 years is way too long.
 
… For most Latin american countries annulment decisions take between 9 to 12 years average. Some are way over than that (I have an aunt who took 15 years). So while I can understand that it takes some time 12-15 years is way too long.
That’s appalling. It is also totally contrary to the current procedural law. I don’t know if any modification of procedure, short of eliminating it entirely, could remedy such an abuse.

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  1. The pope makes a good point. For most Latin american countries annulment decisions take between 9 to 12 years average. Some are way over than that (I have an aunt who took 15 years). So while I can understand that it takes some time 12-15 years is way too long.

  1. Wow, that is crazy! It is definitely much faster here in the states from what I have seen/heard.

    We definitely want the process to be thorough/find the Truth (it has to be in order to defend the sacrament of Matrimony), but if it can be done efficiently, it needs to be done efficiently. Regardless of whether or not it turns out the marriage was valid, a more efficient process would be beneficial for all.
 
Wow, that is crazy! It is definitely much faster here in the states from what I have seen/heard.

We definitely want the process to be thorough/find the Truth (it has to be in order to defend the sacrament of Matrimony), but if it can be done efficiently, it needs to be done efficiently. Regardless of whether or not it turns out the marriage was valid, a more efficient process would be beneficial for all.
All around the world, the process is MUCH slower than it is in the US. I heard talk once that one idea was to examine the systems used in the US. Pick the best one(s), make improvements where needed, and then role out a standardized process to the rest of the world.

I personally think it might make sense for Dioceses, Provinces, and/or National Conferences to share/pull resources. That could potentially help speed up investigations.
 
In extemporaneous remarks made to participants in a course sponsored by the Roman Rota, Pope Francis said that justice demands that the Church’s decisions on the validity of marriages …

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My fiancee’ is going on almost three years of waiting here in the U.S., with possibly another year ahead. It is an excrutiating time and the process seems very slow. Not sure what we can do to speed up the process but I sadly think we are not the only ones waiting this long. 😦
 
Wow, that is crazy! It is definitely much faster here in the states from what I have seen/heard.

We definitely want the process to be thorough/find the Truth (it has to be in order to defend the sacrament of Matrimony), but if it can be done efficiently, it needs to be done efficiently. Regardless of whether or not it turns out the marriage was valid, a more efficient process would be beneficial for all.
Also, with a long process, there’s the risk of witnesses dying, papers getting mislaid, etc.
 
Also, with a long process, there’s the risk of witnesses dying, papers getting mislaid, etc.
Not to mention memories altering, however unintentionally.

I was in a wedding a few years ago. As a friend of the bride, I thought the marriage was almost certainly invalid from the start. I took the time to write out a lot of my impressions about their attitude towards marriage (especially the groom’s) and their beliefs about it, as well as incidents around the marriage that raised huge red flags. (Another friend tried to bring this up with the bride, but was shot down so thoroughly that it was obvious there was no point in my saying anything.) I recently came across this, and was glad I made the note at the time because I had honestly forgotten most of what I’d written down. I wrote it with the idea that it might be useful if either ever sought an annulment, and would have lost a lot of valuable information if I hadn’t.
 
It takes 10-15 years in my country, therefore very few people even begin with the procedure… I guess 2-3 years would be surprisingly quick 🙂
 
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