Pope Francis Changes Catechism to Declare Death Penalty ‘Inadmissible’

[angel12]

Here’s a good article from Msgr. Pope on the need for a bit of circumspection in our reaction to this news

http://blog.adw.org/2018/08/lets-careful-charges-regarding-new-wording-catechism-death-penalty/

Some common sense, hallelujah!

 

[F_Marturana]

Can you point out the “Dogma of Capital punishment” please?

 

[Pug]

Concerning the image of God and whether is can somehow be lessened in a man, there are some CCC quotes available, but to me they seem rather oriented to original sin and man as a whole. Not that this necessarily stops them from applying to a man. Also note the switch to the word “likeness” in one of the quotes.

844 In their religious behavior, however, men also display the limits and errors that disfigure the image of God in them…

705 Disfigured by sin and death, man remains “in the image of God,” in the image of the Son, but is deprived “of the glory of God,” of his “likeness.”…

1701 …It is in Christ, Redeemer and Savior, that the divine image, disfigured in man by the first sin, has been restored to its original beauty and ennobled by the grace of God.

 

[Pug]

But at times it can be deemed necessary by the state to carry out such punishment, in order to protect other people.

I agree the basic goal seems to be to protect other people. Aquinas, though, seems to restrict the State to carrying it out upon sinners, and not the innocent, stating that a sinner has “fall[en] away from the dignity of [his] manhood”. I’m trying to figure exactly what that means, and if the pope’s choice of words were a reaction to this type of reasoning.

 

[1Lord1Faith]

Jeez. I got halfway through your post and then I quit reading it. All of these questions you’re asking are answered in the letter to the bishops. Then I stopped reading after your logical fallacies. Sorry I just can’t go on like this.

 

[Trying2overcome]

I mean, i guess as long as we are not told to believe theat death penalty is intrinsically evil then it should be fine, right? Because if all of a sudden it IS intrinsically evil then we’re pretty much condemning the Church.