Pope Francis possible seeking to end Latin Mass permission

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I am sorry,but I won’ t.
We ve already been to that rodeo…
I am personally done with hearesay." " A source in the Vatican says…"
 
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What rodeo? Well perhaps you don’t want to discover the truth of my post.
 
This is pure speculation. It says that Pope Francis is waiting for Pope Emeritus Benedict to die first. What if God calls Pope Francis before he calls Pope Emeritus Benedict?
 
There are many sources of truth in the world—but they are not two of them.
 
Fear mongering.
And the ill informed or those who refuse to understand that most people in the world do not worship in Latin fall for it.
 
I really doubt that Pope Francis abolishes the EF. He would alienate so many people. That would shut down the FSSP, ICK, and other orders like it. There would be an uproar. I know that there aren’t as many EF folks out there but they are a vocal minority.
 
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Again, didn’t click on the link…it’s a joke!

My post validates my experiment: people read a headline and then jump to conclusions, rather than actually reading or investigating further!
 
LumineDiei said:
The Mass in Extraordinary Form is beautiful. It truly is. But, when an attachment to it (and other things that seem to attach themselves to that form of the Mass) start to become a distraction and pull those away from the community of Faith we are all called to, he steps in, as a father should, and reminds his children not to be so focused on externals that they forget the internal.
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What makes you so sure that this is an unhealthy attachment? Have you or anyone else questioned these young people on why they love the Extraordinary Form? Maybe it’s a healthy attraction. You ever think of that? Or it just could be that they’ve grown extremely tired of some of the liturgical abuses they’ve witnessed in the current form of the Mass, which to them has lost some of its former beauty and sense of sacredness. Maybe they’ve grown tired of witnessing certain clergy, who have seemingly granted themselves creative license to reshape the Mass according to their own whims and fancies. A sort of, anything goes mentality. Anyone who has been on these boards for any length of time will have read countless threads with these and similar complaints. But if you ask me, the answer to why the young find the Latin Mass so attractive can simply be found in the article below. And that my friend has nothing to do with so-called “rigidity.”

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Ten Reasons To Attend The Traditional Latin Mass

By Peter Kwasniewski & Michael Foley Given that it can often be less convenient for a person or a family to attend the traditional Latin Mass (and I am thinking not only of obvious issues like the…
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Funny how in some circles it is ONLY those Catholics who have an affinity for the classical liturgy who are suspect, or accused of rigidity, or otherwise to be insulted (and to be perfectly honest, the pope has spoken in insulting terms about such Catholics).
 
No, it’s you who missed the point. In the article I linked, Father Antonio Spadaro quoted what the Holy Father said about youth attracted to the Latin Mass. Not “rad trads,” but simply the young people of today. Pope Francis told Father Spadaro he wonders why some young people, who were not raised with the old Latin Mass, nevertheless prefer it.

“And I ask myself: Why so much rigidity? Dig, dig, this rigidity always hides something, insecurity or even something else. Rigidity is defensive. True love is not rigid.”

Now nowhere in there is he referencing “angry traditionalists,” or “rad trads” as you seem to be implying. Many commentators, including priests have voiced their concern because he was talking about the youth in general, and not those pesky traditionalists as you refer to them. How would he know what’s in their hearts, which is central to the point.
 
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Ah c’mon Lumine, I used the term “pesky” because it sums up your apparent attitude towards those who are self described traditionalists.
LumineDiei said:
Becoming an angry Traditionalist that goes on every blog or forum or spends their free time speaking about how awful the Mass that “Novus Ordo” is, along with insisting anything after the Second Vatican Council is wrong or lacking in graces, insisting only certain kinds of clothes can be worn, and only certain devotions should be followed
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Now here is that post again, without the “pesky traditionalists” quote. Care to answer it?
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No, it’s you who missed the point. In the article I linked, Father Antonio Spadaro quoted what the Holy Father said about youth attracted to the Latin Mass. Not “rad trads,” but simply the young people of today. Pope Francis told Father Spadaro he wonders why some young people, who were not raised with the old Latin Mass, nevertheless prefer it.

“And I ask myself: Why so much rigidity? Dig, dig, this rigidity always hides something, insecurity or even something else. Rigidity is defensive. True love is not rigid.”

Now nowhere in there is he referencing “angry traditionalists,” or “rad trads” as you seem to be implying. Many commentators, including priests have voiced their concern because he was talking about the youth in general. How would he know what’s in their hearts, which is central to the point?
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Someone might perhaps ask the pope if people who persist in adulterous unions are “rigid,” or is that word only to be applied to those who prefer the classical liturgy?
 
But you’re not answering it!!! My original post was about when the Holy Father called the youth “rigid.” You replied that this was simply a misunderstanding of his words. His concern was for those youth that have an unhealthy attachment to the Latin Mass. As you yourself referenced them, the Rad-Trads, or Mad-Trads. But nowhere, and I repeat for the third time, nowhere in Father Spadaro’s comments was our Holy Father referencing the Rad-Trads, or Mad-Trads. He was simply commenting on ALL youth in general that favored the Extraordinary Form of the Mass. This is the point that you seem to be completely missing…deliberately or otherwise!
 
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