Pope Francis pulls no punches on Twitter

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The comments are depressing. Apparently everyone thinks the Vatican hordes everybody’s money. Suppose they’ve never actually visited a church long enough to see where the donations go. Schools, soup kitchens, the poor… you name it, my church has taken donations. And if you don’t have money, no one is making you put anything in the basket; we love a helping hand just as much, if not more than, a dollar bill. Honestly, do the commenters even know what they’re talking about?
 
classica87 said:
The comments are depressing. Apparently everyone thinks the Vatican hordes everybody’s money. Suppose they’ve never actually visited a church long enough to see where the donations go. Schools, soup kitchens, the poor… you name it, my church has taken donations. And if you don’t have money, no one is making you put anything in the basket; we love a helping hand just as much, if not more than, a dollar bill. Honestly, do the commenters even know what they’re talking about?
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No, they don’t.

I’ve been learning that I should pretty much never read the comments on an article that touches on the Church or even religion in general, all it does it upset me :confused:
 
classica87 said:
The comments are depressing. Apparently everyone thinks the Vatican hordes everybody’s money. Suppose they’ve never actually visited a church long enough to see where the donations go. Schools, soup kitchens, the poor… you name it, my church has taken donations. And if you don’t have money, no one is making you put anything in the basket; we love a helping hand just as much, if not more than, a dollar bill. Honestly, do the commenters even know what they’re talking about?
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I agree that some of the comments are tough to read… but isn’t that always the case? The dregs really come out in full force against truth.
 
classica87 said:
The comments are depressing. Apparently everyone thinks the Vatican hordes everybody’s money. Suppose they’ve never actually visited a church long enough to see where the donations go. Schools, soup kitchens, the poor… you name it, my church has taken donations. And if you don’t have money, no one is making you put anything in the basket; we love a helping hand just as much, if not more than, a dollar bill. Honestly, do the commenters even know what they’re talking about?
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The Vatican Moneybags argument against the Church is so old and tired I have difficulty making myself care about it anymore. It is significant because it does alienate people from the Catholic Church and obviously Pope Francis is taking the perception seriously, but in itself it’s just such an old sack of baloney.
 
I know how to get folks to think you’re richer than the vatican. Its called gold paint. People who really believe the church is made out of money don’t have the capacity to tell the difference between a gold painted rock and gold nugget.
 
=godisgood77;10697393]Our Pope is driving to the core of the world’s obsession with money…
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1 Tim 6:10 - For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
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SEE: GOD IS IN CHARGE:D

Let’s keep praying for him. He needs all of the support we can give to him.👍
 
classica87 said:
The comments are depressing. Apparently everyone thinks the Vatican hordes everybody’s money. Suppose they’ve never actually visited a church long enough to see where the donations go. Schools, soup kitchens, the poor… you name it, my church has taken donations. And if you don’t have money, no one is making you put anything in the basket; we love a helping hand just as much, if not more than, a dollar bill. Honestly, do the commenters even know what they’re talking about?
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That’s just the calling card for those who want to redistribute wealth without lifting much of a finger on their part.

It’s probably the easiest financial outlook anyone could have.
 
Aelred_Minor said:
The Vatican Moneybags argument against the Church is so old and tired I have difficulty making myself care about it anymore. It is significant because it does alienate people from the Catholic Church and obviously Pope Francis is taking the perception seriously, but in itself it’s just such an old sack of baloney.
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Yes. I should just not read the comments anymore. Sigh.
 
Perhaps the Holy Father could have commented on the fact that modern European socialism has put Europe into a terrible economic state because of all the lush, liberal, socialist programs that takes from the makers and gives to the takers. Greece, France and Spain are in the shape they are in because they spent more money than they could take in and now everything is stagnant economically because there isn’t anything to get it moving again. Denmark is starting to feel the effects of their own liberal policies. Europe isn’t producing enough children to pay for the current adult population. How is it ever going to get resolved? The masses of unemployed aren’t in that position because "of a self-centred mindset bent on profit at any cost;" it is because of irresponsible governments and greedy citizen populations who want the good life bought with other people’s money.

I certainly hope that the Holy Father will invest more time and energy into reinvigorating the Church through the faith, teachings and sacraments than trying to recast economic systems.
 
Timothysis said:
Perhaps the Holy Father could have commented on the fact that modern European socialism has put Europe into a terrible economic state because of all the lush, liberal, socialist programs that takes from the makers and gives to the takers. Greece, France and Spain are in the shape they are in because they spent more money than they could take in and now everything is stagnant economically because there isn’t anything to get it moving again. Denmark is starting to feel the effects of their own liberal policies. Europe isn’t producing enough children to pay for the current adult population. How is it ever going to get resolved? The masses of unemployed aren’t in that position because "of a self-centred mindset bent on profit at any cost;" it is because of irresponsible governments and greedy citizen populations who want the good life bought with other people’s money.

I certainly hope that the Holy Father will invest more time and energy into reinvigorating the Church through the faith, teachings and sacraments than trying to recast economic systems.
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Interesting that you didn’t bring up the miserable state of the US economy and how it is in shambles because of heinous corporate greed and capitalism run amuck and how American corporations are some of the greatest perpetrators of labor crimes through outsourcing and off shoring to countries without acceptable moral standards.

I hope the Holy Father continues to spread the fragrance of Christ wherever he goes. He is leading the Church and the world according to Jesus’ example and commandments. I for one couldn’t be happier with the example…

Whatever you do to the least of my brethren…
 
godisgood77 said:
Interesting that you didn’t bring up the miserable state of the US economy and how it is in shambles because of heinous corporate greed and capitalism run amuck and how American corporations are some of the greatest perpetrators of labor crimes through outsourcing and off shoring to countries without acceptable moral standards.
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The US economy owes much of its current woes to the federal government’s near-criminal failure to produce a workable budget and live within its means. The federal government is the one behind the collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac which caused the housing crisis. Why would a lending institution be forced to give a sizable loan to an individual who does not make near enough and has no hope to ever pay back the loan? Oh, because we needed to bring fairness and “social justice” into the equation so that everyone can have a piece of the pie. The Vatican worked very hard throughout the 1990s to get back into the black financially; they understood that you can’t just keep rolling over debt indefinitely. It would have served all of us throughout the world very well if the American and European governments would have towed the same line. Imagine the result to the rest of the world if American corporations, your “greatest perpetrators of labor crimes,” were to fail. It happened before in 1929 and the result to the rest of the world was horrendous economically and it also had the effect of allowing the rise of Europeans fascism which resulted in the most horrific war the world has ever seen.
 
Timothysis said:
The US economy owes much of its current woes to the federal government’s near-criminal failure to produce a workable budget and live within its means. The federal government is the one behind the collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac which caused the housing crisis. Why would a lending institution be forced to give a sizable loan to an individual who does not make near enough and has no hope to ever pay back the loan? Oh, because we needed to bring fairness and “social justice” into the equation so that everyone can have a piece of the pie. The Vatican worked very hard throughout the 1990s to get back into the black financially; they understood that you can’t just keep rolling over debt indefinitely. It would have served all of us throughout the world very well if the American and European governments would have towed the same line. Imagine the result to the rest of the world if American corporations, your “greatest perpetrators of labor crimes,” were to fail. It happened before in 1929 and the result to the rest of the world was horrendous economically and it also had the effect of allowing the rise of Europeans fascism which resulted in the most horrific war the world has ever seen.
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Oh…I thought the Enron’s, Worldcom’s, Tyco’s, Madoff’s, Citigroup’s, Countrywide’s and countless others with the same unchecked greed had something to do with it, no?
 
godisgood77 said:
Oh…I thought the Enron’s, Worldcom’s, Tyco’s, Madoff’s, Citigroup’s, Countrywide’s and countless others with the same unchecked greed had something to do with it, no?
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Enron and worldcom are from over a decade ago. Bernie Madoff’s scheme ruined some greedy individuals but it certainly didn’t bring down an economy. Countrywide and other lending institutions were forced to loosen their lending requirements or face discriminatory lending suits under a law instituted during the Clinton administration.

Unchecked greed? Greece had pension programs that began at the age of 45 and lasted till the end of life. France has social programs that gives monthly stipends to pregnant women, regardless of personal wealth. A princess or a pauper both get money from the government. I recently read an article highlighting a woman in Denmark who has never worked and gets her very generous living income from the government because she is single and has two children. She has been on this program since she was 16 and is now in her mid 30s.

The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other people’s money.
 
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