Pope Francis to meet Archbishop of Canterbury in October

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Pope Francis and Archbishop Justin Welby of Canterbury are expected to meet in Rome Oct. 5 at the Basilica of San Gregorio al Celio, the spot from which Pope Gregory the Great sent the monk Augustine with 40 companions to evangelize the island of Britain, considered by Anglicans as their "motherhouse.
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The two will celebrate First Vespers in San Gregorio al Celio Oct. 5. The next day they will have a private meeting that could signal a new phase in ecumenical relations."
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Another meeting between the Archbishop of Canterbury and Pope Francis. Wonderful news!

cruxnow.com/vatican/2016/08/25/pope-francis-meet-archbishop-canterbury-october/
 
I hope that the two churches can unite under the Catholic banner. It would bring many people closer to the truth.
 
anon67074017 said:
I hope that the two churches can unite under the Catholic banner. It would bring many people closer to the truth.
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I hope the two Churches can unite under the Anglican banner. It would bring many people closer to the truth.
 
Padres1969 said:
I hope the two Churches can unite under the Anglican banner. It would bring many people closer to the truth.
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None of the available symbols seems to capture my reaction of laughter. I do quite appreciate the expression “Turnabout is fair play.”
 
ComplineSanFran said:
Another meeting between the Archbishop of Canterbury and Pope Francis. Wonderful news!

cruxnow.com/vatican/2016/08/25/pope-francis-meet-archbishop-canterbury-october/
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I am absolutely delighted that this will be occurring. I fondly remember the previous meetings at San Gregorio in 1989 and in 2002. It is wonderful that with this visit of His Grace, this could arranged.

They share a special bond, that they recognize, because by the disposition of Providence, their respective ministries were inaugurated so close to each other in the Spring of 2013.
 
The Crux article slips up a couple of times.

Justin Welby is not Primate of the Anglican Communion — no such rôle exists — although he is Primate of All England and spiritual leader of the Communion.

And to state that Wolsey declined to annul Henry’s marriage is misleading. In fact Wolsey led Henry’s campaign for an annulment for as long as he was in favour.
 
Padres1969 said:
I hope the two Churches can unite under the Anglican banner. It would bring many people closer to the truth.
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Nothing against Anglicans, or England, but that wouldn’t be universal. By definition. :o

On a side note, I think it would help if you guys would get your story straight on the word “catholic”.
 
Picky_Picky said:
The Crux article slips up a couple of times.

Justin Welby is not Primate of the Anglican Communion — no such rôle exists — although he is Primate of All England and spiritual leader of the Communion.

And to state that Wolsey declined to annul Henry’s marriage is misleading. In fact Wolsey led Henry’s campaign for an annulment for as long as he was in favour.
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… by which I mean as long as Wolsey was in Henry’s favour, of course. Whether Wolsey was in favour of the annulment, who can say?
 
Peter_J said:
Nothing against Anglicans, or England, but that wouldn’t be universal. By definition. :o

On a side note, I think it would help if you guys would get your story straight on the word “catholic”.
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As opposed to all the other points that Anglicans are already of a mind on.
 
Picky_Picky said:
… by which I mean as long as Wolsey was in Henry’s favour, of course. Whether Wolsey was in favour of the annulment, who can say?
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Wolsey didn’t care, as long as he retained the King’s favor. He would have been happier if Anne had dropped dead, of course. So would Clement.
 
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Wolsey didn’t care, as long as he retained the King’s favor. He would have been happier if Anne had dropped dead, of course. So would Clement.
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Or if Catherine had, presumably.
 
Not sure the point of these grand gestures. Has anything concrete been accomplished in all the years of dialogue? Have Anglicans been ‘persuaded’ by our ‘sharing’ and ‘conversation’? The best ecumenical gesture produced from this was Pope Benedict creating the Ordinariates; but I’m not sure that it was necessarily due to any dialogue at this level.
 
SyroMalankara said:
Not sure the point of these grand gestures. Has anything concrete been accomplished in all the years of dialogue? Have Anglicans been ‘persuaded’ by our ‘sharing’ and ‘conversation’? The best ecumenical gesture produced from this was Pope Benedict creating the Ordinariates; but I’m not sure that it was necessarily due to any dialogue at this level.
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I don’t think the meetings of the Pope and the archbishop are necessarily “grand gestures”. My understanding is that there tends to be an underlying business reason: I recall the two men agreeing on joint action against modern slavery and human trafficking, for instance. No doubt the display of brotherhood is moving and exemplary, but they are both practical men, too.

As to the Ordinariate, I think you are right in suggesting that it did not arise from these sorts of meeting: in fact I think I remember that the decision was sprung on the then Archbishop of Canterbury with little warning.

In any case, it seems odd to suggest that meetings between leading members of Christian churches are in some way undesirable.
 
SyroMalankara said:
Not sure the point of these grand gestures. Has anything concrete been accomplished in all the years of dialogue? Have Anglicans been ‘persuaded’ by our ‘sharing’ and ‘conversation’? The best ecumenical gesture produced from this was Pope Benedict creating the Ordinariates; but I’m not sure that it was necessarily due to any dialogue at this level.
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It wasn’t.
 
Picky_Picky said:
I don’t think the meetings of the Pope and the archbishop are necessarily “grand gestures”. My understanding is that there tends to be an underlying business reason: I recall the two men agreeing on joint action against modern slavery and human trafficking, for instance. No doubt the display of brotherhood is moving and exemplary, but they are both practical men, too.

As to the Ordinariate, I think you are right in suggesting that it did not arise from these sorts of meeting: in fact I think I remember that the decision was sprung on the then Archbishop of Canterbury with little warning.

In any case, it seems odd to suggest that meetings between leading members of Christian churches are in some way undesirable.
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Correct. And it (Anglicanorum Coetibus) had 2 causes; one the long standing campaign from the Continuum group (TAC) to bring about some from of corporate union and, the proximate trigger, the visit of several CoE bishops, early in 2009, to ask the Pope to extend some form of life raft to the orthodox in the CoE, as the specter of females in miters loomed ahead.
 
Picky_Picky said:
In any case, it seems odd to suggest that meetings between leading members of Christian churches are in some way undesirable.
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Why is it odd? Meeting members of Churches that share a common desire for unity, or theology, or doctrine - this I understand, even while differences remain, there is at least a mind toward corporate unity.

I do not understand the desire to endlessly dialogue while getting shanked in the back.
 
SyroMalankara said:
Why is it odd? Meeting members of Churches that share a common desire for unity, or theology, or doctrine - this I understand, even while differences remain, there is at least a mind toward corporate unity.

I do not understand the desire to endlessly dialogue while getting shanked in the back.
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And talking of odd, what an odd expression! Who is getting shanked by whom, and how is this evinced?
 
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