Pope Francis views on Islam, has Catholic Answers talked about it?

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Sure, you make a good point and all, as I am not saying all Muslims are doomed to hell (as some might not know they are following a false religion through no fault of their own etc) and we still got to try treat them decently, as with people in general, but what I quoted does make a good point in few words to sum up Islam.

bottom line… Islam cannot be trusted (see link below).

since this site does not allow me to post links right now, as I just made a account,
here is the only way around it for now… goto catholicworldreport dot com and add the following after it… /2016/09/08/time-for-catholics-to-reconsider-islam-and-the-prophet-muhammad/ ; that takes you to the website I got my general quote from in my initial post.
 
I don’t think any Catholic would deny that Islam is a false religion where it contradicts revealed truth. But we have to live in the world alongside Muslims nonetheless, and leaders like the Pope have to deal with nations where Islam is a guiding force. Surely it is better to understand that the vast majority of Muslims seek from their religion what we seek from ours (comfort, moral guidance, the promise of an afterlife) and don’t represent some kind of threat to us. Just like Catholics and Protestants, or Christians and Jews, peaceful coexistence that was once thought impossible is possible, as long as we recognize the things we have in common.
 
Those Coptic Christians who were martyred by Islamist militants are my brothers.
 
Either the Catholic Church was misinformed and erred in teaching about Islam and other non-Catholic beliefs before 1962-1965, or it she is misguided in these latter years. It can’t be both.
 
I don’t see this as a change in perception, but rather a greater understanding. Of course when we pray for the protection of Islam we are praying for the well being of the Islamic people (including an openness to conversion)
 
Even if you wish to reserve “brothers and sisters” for fellow Christians, certainly Muslims are fellow humans, holders of the Imago Dei, for whom Christ died and with whom God wills to share eternal communion. From Our Lord Himself to St. Maria Goretti and beyond, our martyrs pray for their killers to join them in Heaven, rather than writing them off as something other for their sins.
 
To be fair, the spiritual confusion did not begin with Pope Francis. The Council Fathers of Vatican II made this ambiguous statement.

Lumen Gentium # 16: “But the plan of salvation also embraces those who acknowledge the Creator, and among these the MUSLIMS are first; they profess to hold the faith of Abraham AND ALONG WITH US THEY WORSHIP THE ONE MERCIFUL GOD WHO WILL JUDGE MANKIND ON THE LAST DAY.”

What does this statement convey, theologically? Is it stating that Muslims worship the True God, or that they perceive hat they worship the True God?

Vatican II’s ambiguities have lead to tremendous spiritual chaos.
 
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Vatican II’s ambiguities have lead to tremendous spiritual chaos.
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The greatest truth is not to convert all people to the Catholic Church. The greatest truth is to love God and all our neighbours. We are commanded to do many things, but if we make these two commandments our greatest priority, then everything else will fall into place, nothing has changed.

You and I can only achieve salvation through the grace, mercy and forgiveness of our Lord; and not because we deserve it. Only Jesus can say who he extends this same grace, mercy and forgiveness to.
 
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It means that in our work of evangelization we will have some limited common ground.
 
Where is Catholic Answers on St. Pope John Paul II’s disturbing actions in regard to Islam?

Pope John Paul II kissed the Koran in 1999. Source: AP Images.

Chaldean Patriarch Raphael I Bidawid confirmed this concerning occurrence in an interview with Vatican FIDES news service:
At the end of audience the Pope bowed to the Muslim holy book the Koran presented to him by the delegation and he kissed it as a sign of respect.
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In 2000, during a visit to Wadi Al-Kharrar, St. Pope John Paul II intoned, “May Saint John Baptist protect Islam and all people of the Jordan…” Official website of the Holy See.
 
The Catholic Church has interacted with Islam since the 660s.

Islamic terrorism as we know it emerged in the 1960s, 1300 years later.

The Church’s teachings on all matters reflect the full history of the subject. Changes in the past 60 years do not significantly change Church teachings on any matter.
 
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I don’t think anyone is opposed to treating people with love and kindness.

That is a far cry from a Pope asking St. John the Baptist, the forerunner of Christ, to “protect Islam,” a religion which denies the divinity and lordship of Christ.
 
The Orthodox world, and the Hindus of the Indian Subcontinent, would tremendously disagree with your assessment.

Orthodox (and Eastern Catholics) often shed their blood and lost their independence to Islamic conquests, and the West benefitted from this sacrifice.
 
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I don’t think anyone is opposed to treating people with love and kindness.
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That has to include people from all faiths and no faith.
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Orthodox (and Eastern Catholics) often shed their blood and lost their independence to Islamic conquests, and the West benefitted from this sacrifice.
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We have to move on from these views, and strive to live in peace and harmony with each other despite our differences. I have just been to an interfaith meeting and felt greatly encouraged by the support from our Muslim community.
 
Yes it was a sign of respect. Just as people kiss the ring of the pope it’s a sign of respect. Pope jpll by his love and respect to all humans has brought millions to the faith.
 
I have not caught up on this topic, but I’ve seen a lot of hubbub on social media about “the pope is saying all faiths are the same!”

When really, the recent statement with the Sunni Imam seems to be a joint declaration that religion should not be enforced by the sword. God willing, people will listen, and Christian evangelization in the Middle East can blossom.
 
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