Pope: Migrants should heed host's values

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Pope: Migrants should heed host’s values

VATICAN CITY (AP) - Pope Benedict XVI urged immigrants on Sunday to respect the social values of their new countries and said laws are needed to protect their dignity.

Benedict, addressing pilgrims and tourists in St. Peter’s Square, said migration should be seen as a resource, not a problem. Without naming any country or nationality, he lamented the “painful” conditions refugees, exiles, the homeless and the persecuted often endure.
“I hope that soon there will be a balanced management of migratory flows and of human mobility in general, so benefits can reach the entire human family, beginning with concrete measures which favor legal emigration and the reuniting of families,” the pontiff added.

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I think the Pope should add that the laws of *said *countries should be respected. that means do not enter a country illegally and in violation of the laws of the country.

Illegal immigration is not a resource…it is a scourge on the country that has its laws broken. Legal immigration is a different matter and I would hope the Holy Father would understand the difference and make that difference known in his comments.

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BlyssfulDreamer said:
I think the Pope should add that the laws of *said *countries should be respected. that means do not enter a country illegally and in violation of the laws of the country.

Illegal immigration is not a resource…it is a scourge on the country that has its laws broken. Legal immigration is a different matter and I would hope the Holy Father would understand the difference and make that difference known in his comments.

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I think he made that point perfectly clear.
“Only respect for human dignity for all migrants, on one hand, **and the recognition by the migrants themselves of the values of the societies which host them, **will make possible the proper integration of families in the social, economic and political systems” where they are now living, Benedict said.
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The vast majority of the “illegal” population has been true to our Pope’s words as they have been productive and law abiding members of our communities.
 
The vast majority of the “illegal” population has been true to our Pope’s words as they have been productive and law abiding members of our communities.
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not if they are illegal. obviously they are not respecting the rules of their host country. my grandparents were not allowed to speak their native language outside the house. i wish i could say the same about mexicans. that is a way in which they can respect the culture.
 
Dee_Dee_King said:
not if they are illegal. obviously they are not respecting the rules of their host country.

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This leads us to the flip side of the Pope’s message that many people seem to miss. That is respect, first and foremost, of God’s laws. We had a method that would have allowed these people to pass through the door of legal entry. We chose to close that door for no good reason in violation of the laws of Supply and Demand. The fact that these people found honest jobs demonstrates that we needed more “legal” immigrants than we allowed. So it is we that are guilty of criminalizing them for providing for their families in a manner that is consistent with Natural Law. The consensus is that we have a “NET” gain from their labor and yet still complain about the related costs. Thus, had we not first acted arbitrarily against them, none of the “crimes” that were a function of their “illegal” entry would be an issue. Of course, that is just my interpretation of the advocacy our Church has taken on this issue. There are those of the opinion that the Church is wrong to advocate for these people. We have a choice, just as we do with any Pro-Life issue.
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Ituyu said:
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This leads us to the flip side of the Pope’s message that many people seem to miss. That is respect, first and foremost, of God’s laws. We had a method that would have allowed these people to pass through the door of legal entry. We chose to close that door for no good reason in violation of the laws of Supply and Demand. The fact that these people found honest jobs demonstrates that we needed more “legal” immigrants than we allowed. So it is we that are guilty of criminalizing them for providing for their families in a manner that is consistent with Natural Law. The consensus is that we have a “NET” gain from their labor and yet still complain about the related costs. Thus, had we not first acted arbitrarily against them, none of the “crimes” that were a function of their “illegal” entry would be an issue. Of course, that is just my interpretation of the advocacy our Church has taken on this issue. There are those of the opinion that the Church is wrong to advocate for these people. We have a choice, just as we do with any Pro-Life issue.
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Incorrect… they broke the law to get here.
Ituyu said:
The vast majority of the “illegal” population has been true to our Pope’s words as they have been productive and law abiding members of our communities.
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maggieodae said:
Ituyu;1820045:
They have a choice too.Follow the law! My grandparents did…NO one handed them anything. They worked for it like everyone else…and did it legally. That is the point!
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Our ancestors, thank God almighty, did not have to face the legal limitations faced by current immigrants. I have no doubt that faced with the same situation as those currently coming here “illegally”, our ancestors would have done the same.
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pnewton said:
Which of God’s law are they following which justifies a violation of civil law. Thou shalt immigrate?
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The one that says that all God’s children have a right and obligation to survive and that it is wrong to arbitrarily deny a person that right. And, our Popes have said that an “inviolable” right to immigrate/emigrate exists. Why do you think our Church advocates for these people?
 
Ituyu said:
The one that says that all God’s children have a right and obligation to survive and that it is wrong to arbitrarily deny a person that right. And, our Popes have said that an “inviolable” right to immigrate/emigrate exists. Why do you think our Church advocates for these people?
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Right. I do not think anyone is denying the right of anyone to immigrate, just to immigrate without following any of the established procedure. This country has been open to immigration and tens of millions have done so. I wonder if any other country has allowed as much legal immigration. I will look in the catechism how it stated the right to immigrate.

As far as right to survive, I do not see that is applicable.
 
They stole across the border… they didn’t pay the fees associatied with becomming a citizen… Thou Shalt Not Steal.

Sorry… but they are wrong all the way around.
Ituyu said:
Not according to the Catholic Catechism.
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