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mintavia
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As much as I would love to see an end to violence by these folks, I don’t think any agreement with islam will ever end thier total malice towards anyone who is not muslim. They are taught by thier “religion” to decieve the infidel at the treaty table, and then enslave them as soon as possible. I don’t know what parts of the quaran that is from or what chapers…but I do remember reading it. The peace would not last. The human rights of non muslims in muslim contries are stomped on. The basic tenents of the muslim faith are well…very un christian. They have different beliefs of the value of a life. some lives are worth more than others. It is all terribly confusing. I am always glad to see His Holiness using his divine office to make peace…but I don’t really think his efforts are taken seriously by the muslim. He is just another infidel to them.
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Muslim_Woman
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Salaam/peace
can’t watch video . God ordered us to give this messgae to you :
Say: “O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but God; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than God.”
If then they turn back, say ye: “Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to God’s Will).” Quran 3.64
can’t watch video . God ordered us to give this messgae to you :
Say: “O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but God; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than God.”
If then they turn back, say ye: “Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to God’s Will).” Quran 3.64
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abucs
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And what do you think that passage means Muslim Woman ?
How do you interpret it and what is the authority for your own interpretation ?
And how do you square that with the Koran saying that if you are unsure of a passage consult ‘the people of the book’ and they will tell you.
And what also is the authority of your own interpretation of what this second passage means ?
How do you interpret it and what is the authority for your own interpretation ?
And how do you square that with the Koran saying that if you are unsure of a passage consult ‘the people of the book’ and they will tell you.
And what also is the authority of your own interpretation of what this second passage means ?
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Vanquisher
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What does it mean for God to have a “partner”, MuslimWoman? Isn’t Mohammad a “partner” of God?
If this verse is supposed to refer to Christians, it proves that the Qur’an is not of divine origin. Christians do not believe the Trinity is God, Jesus, and Mary, as the Qur’an claims. Neither do Christians believe that Jesus is a “partner” with God–Jesus Christ IS God; how can God be a “partner” to Himself?
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Muslim_Woman
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Salaam/peace
Muhammed (p) is a servant & Messenger of God . God has no partner , son , mom , dad etc.
Jesus (p) is a humble servant & blessed messenger of God. In Islam & regarding your own holy book , if u take other diety besides God , that is shirk/blasphemy .
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AliciaCL
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Check out this article entitled “Catholics and Muslims to fight terror and defend faith” posted Nov. 6, 2008 in the Washington Post. It shows the incredile progress from the dialogue which Pope Benedict XI is pushing between Muslims and Catholics.
washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110600784.html?hpid=sec-religion
washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110600784.html?hpid=sec-religion
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Muslim_Woman
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Salaam/peace
Father is diety , Son is diety, holy Spirit is diety . So , is it ok to say Christians have 3 dieties ? If not , why not ?
Father is diety , Son is diety, holy Spirit is diety . So , is it ok to say Christians have 3 dieties ? If not , why not ?
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CHESTERTONRULES
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All are part of the one God.
Question for you: Do Muslims believe that God is capable of love?
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ralphinal
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By the way Muslim Woman has answered, we can see that she sees NO NEED to worry about ending a rift by any means other than subjugating us.
Otherwise, she would be willing to learn why Islam is FALSE.
Otherwise, she would be willing to learn why Islam is FALSE.
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Muslim_Woman
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Salaam/peace
3 different parts ? It means 3 dieties are making one God.
sure . In this world all including disbelievers will get rewards from God . But in the hereafter , rewards are for those who worship One true diety only.
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ralphinal
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So love is only expressed in physical rewards?
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Lisa44
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Thank you for posting this video.
Its very good. Pope Benedict XVI is exactly right. Murdering people in the name of God is wrong. Brain washing the youth to hate others in the name of God is wrong.
What is the “address” he is mourning?
There is a huge gap in Islamic countries between the mulas and scholars and the people who are subject to violent persecutions themselves, and also who violently persecute others.
The “prejudices” he is talking about come right out of the Koran “take not the Christians and Jews as your friends” , “kill the infidel” etc.
I don’t know if Islam will ever catch up with God. It’s like a dog chasing its tail around and round in circles.
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mintavia
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Musim woman, Perhaps you misunderstand the trinity. I am unsure how to make the trinity understood to you because it is a mystery even to us. The only way I can describe it is like this.
And to my Catholic breatheren please correct me if I err.
A father
A son
A husband
One MAN can be all three things. A HUMAN. God who all powerful and can do ALL things is quite capable of doing something even tiny mortal men do every day. The difference is God is eternal. No begining, no end. He is all powerful. He can come to earth if he pleases. He can allow himself to be placed with a vessel(Mary). He can allow himself to live among us. He can allow himself to suffer for us. He can allow himself to establish an earthly Church.
He can do anything he wants. He is God. He can be whatever he wants to be. And since this Gracious being also loves us, he has chosen to do these things so we can enjoy heaven. Heaven is not earth. There will be nothing earthly about heaven. No carnal pleasures. The pleasure will be all about GOD. We call it the “Beautific vision”. It, and it alone is why we strive for heaven. We strive for something far better than lowly earthly pleasures, sensations, and goods. What need would we have for “virgins” when we would have God himself right in front of us!
He is that magnificent…that worthy. That is the God we worship. We desire nothing but HIM.
And to my Catholic breatheren please correct me if I err.
A father
A son
A husband
One MAN can be all three things. A HUMAN. God who all powerful and can do ALL things is quite capable of doing something even tiny mortal men do every day. The difference is God is eternal. No begining, no end. He is all powerful. He can come to earth if he pleases. He can allow himself to be placed with a vessel(Mary). He can allow himself to live among us. He can allow himself to suffer for us. He can allow himself to establish an earthly Church.
He can do anything he wants. He is God. He can be whatever he wants to be. And since this Gracious being also loves us, he has chosen to do these things so we can enjoy heaven. Heaven is not earth. There will be nothing earthly about heaven. No carnal pleasures. The pleasure will be all about GOD. We call it the “Beautific vision”. It, and it alone is why we strive for heaven. We strive for something far better than lowly earthly pleasures, sensations, and goods. What need would we have for “virgins” when we would have God himself right in front of us!
He is that magnificent…that worthy. That is the God we worship. We desire nothing but HIM.
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Deo_Volente
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Grace & Peace!
The Trinity is a mystery in which the nature of God is most fully hinted at–that God is ONE BEING and THREE PERSONS simultaneously. These Persons are not parts of God, nor are they separate Beings. There is One Being who is God. One Being in a communion of Three Persons–and this communion reveals the most basic truth of the Gospel: that God is love.
The Trinity is very easily misunderstood. Some people find it difficult to accept. I understand you may be one of them. However, it is intellectually dishonest to debate with us our theological terms without understanding them completely. Similarly, it is intellectually dishonest to misunderstand our terms and claim that your misunderstanding represents our theology.
Ultimately, the Christianity of Three Divine Beings that you describe is non-existent. You’re arguing about a religion that doesn’t exist. Christianity believes in One Divine Being. Three Persons, One Being.
To understand this better, may I suggest you investigate the use of the terms OUSIA and HYPOSTASIS as they were used in the 4th Century in the church?
What the Pope is doing and what the delegation of Muslims is doing is a great gift to both Christians and Muslims. To reject it on the basis of a misunderstanding, or to perpetuate that misunderstanding in the face of such a gift is belligerent, sad, and ultimately unbecoming.
Under the Mercy,
Mark
All is grace and mercy–Deo gratias!
Muslim Woman, Chesterton, I think, spoke a bit rashly and colloquially. There are no parts in God. The Christian creeds attest to this (the Athanasian in particular).
The Trinity is a mystery in which the nature of God is most fully hinted at–that God is ONE BEING and THREE PERSONS simultaneously. These Persons are not parts of God, nor are they separate Beings. There is One Being who is God. One Being in a communion of Three Persons–and this communion reveals the most basic truth of the Gospel: that God is love.
The Trinity is very easily misunderstood. Some people find it difficult to accept. I understand you may be one of them. However, it is intellectually dishonest to debate with us our theological terms without understanding them completely. Similarly, it is intellectually dishonest to misunderstand our terms and claim that your misunderstanding represents our theology.
Ultimately, the Christianity of Three Divine Beings that you describe is non-existent. You’re arguing about a religion that doesn’t exist. Christianity believes in One Divine Being. Three Persons, One Being.
To understand this better, may I suggest you investigate the use of the terms OUSIA and HYPOSTASIS as they were used in the 4th Century in the church?
What the Pope is doing and what the delegation of Muslims is doing is a great gift to both Christians and Muslims. To reject it on the basis of a misunderstanding, or to perpetuate that misunderstanding in the face of such a gift is belligerent, sad, and ultimately unbecoming.
Under the Mercy,
Mark
All is grace and mercy–Deo gratias!
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bpbasilphx
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can’t watch video . God ordered us to give this messgae to you :*
No, He didn’t. God told me to tell you you’re listening to an impostor.
No, He didn’t. God told me to tell you you’re listening to an impostor.
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CHESTERTONRULES
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Could a single person be capable of love if there were no other persons in the universe?
Can there be love without sacrifice?
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ralphinal
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Can a Muslim answer this?
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sambos671
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The Koran says to lay in wait and ambush us to persecute us wherever they find us until we repent and pay the alms levy. There can be no peace between us and Islam until Islam puts away its violent intentions towards us. Mohammad was a warlord his children were warlords. It stands to reason that the “struggle” is just not an internal one.
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sambos671
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I want to make something clear, however, Christians should not and do not have an violent intentions to Islam. In otherwords, we are dictated by our lord to love our enemies. I’m saying the ill will is one sided.
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