Pope sends "olive branch" to French Protestants

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Pope sends olive branch to French Protestants

By Tom Heneghan, Religion Editor
Reuters
Sunday, May 8, 2005; 4:08 AM

PARIS (Reuters) - Pope Benedict extended an olive branch to some of his harshest critics at the weekend, sending a cordial message to a French Protestant church and saying he wanted to work toward the unity of all Christians.

The message to a synod of the Reformed Church of France in the southern city of Aix-en-Province was the first papal note ever sent to the French church’s annual assembly and met with surprise and approval, according to local media reports.

The Protestant Federation of France – of which the Reformed Church is the largest member – stood out among the well-wishers after Benedict’s election on April 19 by bluntly expressing its concern about him and demanding "a sign of ecumenical openness."It recalled he had dismissed Protestant denominations as “not proper churches” in an official statement in 2000 when he was Vatican doctrinal overseer Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger.

The Vatican message to the synod said the German-born Pope “cordially salutes all participants of the Reformed Church of France and assures them of his prayers.”

Since becoming Pope, Benedict has made frequent statements supporting inter-religious cooperation, a shift of emphasis from his earlier drive to assert a superiority of Catholicism.

“This is an important signal,” Pastor Marcel Manoel, head of France’s largest Protestant church, told Europe 1 radio. “Being German, he understands Protestant churches well.”

BROTHER JOINED IN PRAYER

The Reformed Church belongs to the Calvinist tradition of Protestantism, traditionally critical of the papacy, and has 300,000 members. Protestants make up about 2 percent of the population in historically Catholic France.

Manoel noted Benedict referred to his denomination as a church rather than an “ecclesiastical community,” a phrase he had earlier used that hinted it was inferior to Catholicism.

“We appreciate that this message comes from someone who presents himself as a brother and joins us in prayer,” he said, according to the Paris daily Le Monde.

Before receiving the message, which was sent by Vatican Deputy Secretary of State Archbishop Leonardo Sandri, Manoel told his church he feared the secret conclave that elected Benedict, 78, had succumbed to a temptation to avoid change.

This amounted to “resistance by some against important advances in the life of the Roman Catholic Church that many of its theologians and pastors have nonetheless demanded.”

Benedict offended Protestants in 2000 with a document entitled Dominus Iesus (Lord Jesus) which argued they did not have churches in the proper sense because they broke from Rome.

This set back efforts at the ecumenical dialogue the Vatican has fostered since the Second Vatican Council of 1962-1965.

The French Protestant Federation’s blunt statement at his election branded the new Pope as “the man of Dominus Iesus and non-recognition of other churches.”

In his first address as Pope, Benedict said he was “willing to do everything in my power to promote the fundamental cause of ecumenism … and am fully determined to accept every initiative that seems opportune to promote contact and understanding.”

Peace, BRING IT ON BABY!😃
 
I saw that on Spirit daily and have been trying to start a thread on it since I am so glad you succeeded:D Okay Malachy prophecys’ where are you guys:confused: Gilliam:nope: What say you?:ehh:
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
I saw that on Spirit daily and have been trying to start a thread on it since I am so glad you succeeded:D Okay Malachy prophecys’ where are you guys:confused: Gilliam:nope: What say you?:ehh:
Me? I would expect no less from him. 👍 There is really only one Church, his job is to try to unify it without yielding on any dogma.
 
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gilliam:
Me? I would expect no less from him. 👍 There is really only one Church, his job is to try to unify it without yielding on any dogma.
Glory of the Olives Gilliam?:hmmm: Did it at least make you wonder?:ehh:
 
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gilliam:
nope :nope:
Admit it Gilliam you thought about ithttp://bestsmileys.com/paranoid/2.gifYou know it crossed your mind:ehh:
 
We are all children of Christ. I am so happy that Pope Benedict XVI is treating our fellow Christians with the respect that they deserve. The Catholic Church offers the fullness of faith. We should invite all of our brothers and sisters home, but we must do this in a loving prayerful way.
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Admit it Gilliam you thought about it You know it crossed your mind:ehh:
LOL! No, sorry, until you pointed it out, I didn’t think about it at all. Just slow I guess. 😃
 
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jdnation:
Lisa, where do you keep getting those gifs? 😃
Check your PM I just sent you my hook up;) Gilliam at least now you noticed it:D Of course you realise I will be posting like a mad woman for fear the forum will crash again:eek:
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Check your PM I just sent you my hook up;) Gilliam at least now you noticed it:D Of course you realise I will be posting like a mad woman for fear the forum will crash again:eek:
IMHO, it doesn’t take much to crash the forum;) , but be my guest, you keep me interested 🙂
 
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gilliam:
IMHO, it doesn’t take much to crash the forum;) , but be my guest, you keep me interested 🙂
Hello I know that someone has something to say about the Olive Branch:whistle:
 
I think this is great, after all, unification is what christianity is all about is it not?
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Hello I know that someone has something to say about the Olive Branch:whistle:
Has giving olive branches been a historical practice of “making peace” with your enemies? If so, how many popes have resorted to this practice?

Peace, BRING IT ON BABY!
 
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preyoflove:
Has giving olive branches been a historical practice of “making peace” with your enemies? If so, how many popes have resorted to this practice?

Peace, BRING IT ON BABY!
I wonder if the Malachy Prophecy posters will respond:whistle: Very interesting,indeed:hmmm: What do you think:confused: I can not believe none have posted yet:eek:
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
I wonder if the Malachy Prophecy posters will respond:whistle: Very interesting,indeed:hmmm: What do you think:confused: I can not believe none have posted yet:eek:
Er…vindication and denial…:o
 
By the way, I’m planning to write an article about these papacies’ prophecies for our alma mater’s student paper and I’ve decided it’s title to be “We have no more popes?”. However, I want to put the Latin translation instead, so can someone translate this in Latin please?

Thank you already.

Peace, bring it on, baby!
 
you want “we have no more popes”?

Ok ummmm…

habemus nullus pluris patris
we have no more fathers

Pope =father in itallian

I don’t know how to say pope in latin or to make that plural so I used the word for father and made that plural.

I looked it all up so the latin is right but the sentence structure might not be…it has no verb and it changes if you want it to be a question. Let me know as you work on it, and I will make the changes…
 
Tyler Smedley:
you want “we have no more popes”?

Ok ummmm…

habemus nullus pluris patris
we have no more fathers

Pope =father in itallian

I don’t know how to say pope in latin or to make that plural so I used the word for father and made that plural.

I looked it all up so the latin is right but the sentence structure might not be…it has no verb and it changes if you want it to be a question. Let me know as you work on it, and I will make the changes…
pope in latin is “papa” I think and “we have no more popes?” probably should be translated into
“habemusne nullos pluros papas?”
 
unification is what christianity is all about is it not
Well it wasn’t for the first thousand years.

Christianity is all about calling people to “Repent and believe in the Gospel” Our Lords first public utterance.

The world needs calling to repentance, and needs to believe in the one true Gospel as preached by the Apostles - no other will do!

The false Gospels of heretics and schismatics will not do.

“As we have said before, and now I say again, if anyone preaches to you a gospel other than the one that you received, let that one be accursed!” Galations 1:9

The Church IS one! There is no need for unity, only the need for people to repent, believe and join us.
 
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