Pope to US bishops: It’s about love as much as doctrine

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Flipping channels last night and C-SPAN was playing the videos of everything. There is no commentary during the video. One of the most moving things to see, to me, was at the Canonization Mass. All the people taking communion.

Here’s a link to the mass
c-span.org/video/?328177-1/canonization-mass-junipero-serra

Of course, since it is C-SPAN, there is political commentary BUT it is not during the videos themselves.

You can use their website’s search window
c-span.org/search/?keywords=pope

He will be addressing Congress shortly, he has already arrived.
They are carrying live video if you are interested
c-span.org/video/?328063-1/pope-francis-address-joint-meeting-congress&live

 

[Maximilan_Kolbe]

But is Crux liberal? Just kidding but I thought I saw someone here on CAF the other day say it was. But I’ve seen the same said on CAF about America Magazine.

Pretty much I hear the same. But one thing I do know is harsh language was/is of no benefit to me or my soul. It merely causes me to tune out. That’s what I just love about this Pope. Doesn’t he seem to nearly always be smiling and to be such a gentle man? I watched him with President Obama and yes both genuinely seemed to be enjoying each other and being in the presence of one another. I even saw Pope Francis met the First Family’s pets, Bo and Sonny Obama.

I suspect it depends on the individual. Some people respond to a serious, more strident tone. Some respond to sweetness. I tune the latter out. IMO, we need both to reach all people. If I care about reaching all people, it would be selfish to simply promote the style that speaks to me, since we are all different and have different needs.

 

[Maximilan_Kolbe]

Who? Are you new here?

I assumed if you are going to comment about something going on, would at least be specific about who you are referring to. Otherwise, it is hard to respond with specifics.

 

[Neofight]

I assumed if you are going to comment about something going on, would at least be specific about who you are referring to. Otherwise, it is hard to respond with specifics.

Just didn’t see the need to state the obvious.

 

[Trader]

How in the world does anyone get the idea that love and doctrine are in any way opposed to each other? The very same person who said,

“This is my commandment: love one another as I love you.”
John 15:12

also said,

“For this I was born and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who belongs to the truth listens to my voice.”

John 18:37

Pope Benedict XVI wrote a whole encyclical on this, CARITAS IN VERITATE
w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20090629_caritas-in-veritate.html

 

[TCEL]

I suspect it depends on the individual. Some people respond to a serious, more strident tone. Some respond to sweetness. I tune the latter out. IMO, we need both to reach all people. If I care about reaching all people, it would be selfish to simply promote the style that speaks to me, since we are all different and have different needs.

I agree. Promoting what speaks to us is only natural. Indeed, it would be self-referential. This is why I love the saints. There’s practically an archetype for every personality. We need each other.

 

[drforjc]

How in the world does anyone get the idea that love and doctrine are in any way opposed to each other? The very same person who said,

“This is my commandment: love one another as I love you.”
John 15:12

also said,

“For this I was born and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who belongs to the truth listens to my voice.”

John 18:37

Pope Benedict XVI wrote a whole encyclical on this, CARITAS IN VERITATE
w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20090629_caritas-in-veritate.html

This is a very cogent observation.

The two are inseparable as they both find their origin in God, Who is indivisible.

 

[Neofight]

Who is doing that? Sanfrancompline has yet to say what she believes he said, so it is unfair to accuse her of that. Or you the arbiter of what he “means?”

Nobody accused anyone of anything, and as a matter of fact I am not the arbitrator of what anyone means, except myself…so please don’t attempt to dictate or evaluate my opinion, because when you do it makes your point look like hypocrisy, at least that is my opinion.

These forums are, to a degree, a venue to express individual opinion and not just for others to support and validate your opinion.

 

[Thomas_White]

Hard to disagree.

Doctrine is what it is. It is truth, cannot be changed, and cannot be avoided. But preach it with love and compassion as much as possible.

Aka, don’t water down the truth of what we teach, but don’t intentionally brusque about it either. If you are going to call out someone’s habits as sinful, do so with a reminder that God’s still loves them and wants better for them than those sins.

That doctrine cannot change is arguable, but in the temporal world of change doctrine has evolved in line with the changing world. The Church also teaches that revelation is a process that will continue until the end of time. Simply stated, we do not know everything there is to know.