Pope's family synod: No changes, but everything has changed

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Meet the new boss … same as the old boss! 🙂

On my phone I could not paste the nice pix of Francis and Benedict praying together.

Someone can take that baton for me if they’d like. 😉

This was good news. Isn:t that what they say about “no news”?
 
CaptFun said:
Meet the new boss … same as the old boss! 🙂

On my phone I could not paste the nice pix of Francis and Benedict praying together.

Someone can take that baton for me if they’d like. 😉

This was good news. Isn:t that what they say about “no news”?
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Good news / no news indeed it would appear, not to take away from the solid year of international innovative, merciful, open dialogue of course. News flash: God is love. That Pope Francis is amazing, isn’t he? All these crazy new wondrous twists and turns! Never ceases to astonish me.

:heaven:
:harp:
:juggle:
 
FollowChrist34 said:
Good news / no news indeed it would appear, not to take away from the solid year of international innovative, merciful, open dialogue of course. News flash: God is love. That Pope Francis is amazing, isn’t he? All these crazy new wondrous twists and turns! Never ceases to astonish me.

:heaven:
:harp:
:juggle:
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Yes, he is! AND I found the pix I couldn’t post with my cellphone.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQDWmP2Ww_UloSi4FKu7aEb6rP6rI1MWI3_q7rx0sWTvOKDY1mjm689aANE

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnZtIxg6ySIVkNy0aNZ-ectWwL1VUGPHFqLIYl3hW-tTSeKOg1t8aOIeWK

POPE-aree!

FRANCIS AND BENEDICT
 
twf said:
While the Pope had the “final word”, he was in distant Rome…communications with Rome could take months or longer. Governance by local Synods with real authority is an ancient norm of the Church. It is only in recent centuries that we saw true local Synods start to disappear (though the Eastern Catholic Churches are still governed by local Synods). Vatican II instituted the national episcopal conferences which was a first step towards a restoration of ancient synodality.
Of course, authentic local synodal authority would be disciplinary, not doctrinal.
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Bishops Conferences were an innovation to help deal with issues of bureaucracy, and also to promote and safeguard faith an morals. They have no authority over individual bishops, nor any authority to determine practice regarding faith and morals. Bishops Conference do not have any real authority and are a effectively bureaucratic organ.

w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/motu_proprio/documents/hf_jp-ii_motu-proprio_22071998_apostolos-suos.html

ad2000.com.au/articles/1998/sep1998p7_547.html

If one Bishops Conference effectively decides (through application of ‘pastoral practice’) that something is (for all practical purposes) morally acceptable while another decides that it isn’t, then there is no longer full Communion between the two. This is very dangerous for the unity of the Church.
 
sarah_j said:
Right.
The notion that the Church has somehow been “unwelcoming” to sinners for
the past 2000 years is sheer nonsense.
What we are hearing now…even from some members of the hierarchy…
is clamoring for the Church to acommodate sin.
…the Church has always welcomed repentant sinners.
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👍

It seems that what is being called for now from certain quarters is that it is not enough to welcome the sinner, we now also have to welcome their sin.

The notion that for the past 2000 years the Church has been unwelcoming to sinners and that the Church has not been merciful is absolute nonsense.
 
Brendan_64 said:
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It seems that what is being called for now from certain quarters is that it is not enough to welcome the sinner, we now also have to welcome their sin.

The notion that for the past 2000 years the Church has been unwelcoming to sinners and that the Church has not been merciful is absolute nonsense.
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For the first 38 years of my life I was an Anglican. As time went on I matured spiritually and saw that Christ established a Church - a teaching Church - a Church that teaches with authority.

Now much of our hierarchy is bent on changing that. Christ did not establish the Anglican communion but rather the Catholic Church. Now it looks like a waste for me to convert. I am very frightened by these events … and by this pope too. (We have had ‘bad popes’ in the past. I pray that Pope Francis will not be counted among them.) ***O Glorious Saint Joseph, ***
*** you were chosen by ***God
*** to be the foster father of Jesus, ***
*** the most pure spouse of Mary, ever Virgin, ***
*** and the head of the Holy Family. ***
*** You have been chosen by Christ’s Vicar
*** as the heavenly Patron and Protector
*** of the Church founded by Christ. ***

*** Protect the Sovereign Pontiff ***
*** and all bishops and priests united with him. ***
*** Be the protector of all who labour for souls ***
*** amid the trials and tribulations of this life; ***
*** and grant that all peoples of the world ***
*** may be docile to the Church ***
*** without which there is no salvation. ***
 
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