Pope's stance on gays 'like Hitler'

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Every SANE person knows that Benedict was forced to be a part of the Hitler Youth, just like every good German boy and girl at that time. And you’re right, it shouldn’t surprise us, because those kind of people are sick. One day, they’ll be advocating pedophilia.
 
**Last night, Senator Norris told the Irish Independent that he knew some of his remarks against the Pope caused offence, but he felt it was his duty to continue to criticise attitudes against gays which were against the common good of society… **
… and besides, he needed to pander to his gay constituency. :whistle: *
 
I still contend that any use of World War II era imagery…lest it be an allegory of being a “hitler” or something being the “holocaust”, is wholly in bad taste and totally inappropriate. I don’t care what side of the debate you are on.
 
Actually, before the Night of the Long Knives,
an entire contingent of the Nazi Party, namely
Ernst Roehm’s SA, was comprised of Nazi Homosexuals.

Jaypeeto3
 
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Jaypeeto3:
Actually, before the Night of the Long Knives,
an entire contingent of the Nazi Party, namely
Ernst Roehm’s SA, was comprised of Nazi Homosexuals.

Jaypeeto3
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Really. Interesting.
 
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bones_IV:
Really. Interesting.
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That was the allegation, at least against Rohm. Don’t know how much of it was true, though, because he was making enemies of both Himmler and the German army. Himmler wanted the SS to replace Rohm and the SA and the German army was afraid that they would be supplanted by the SA.

Hitler needed the army’s support for his plans, so he agreed to go after the SA. Of course, Hindenberg “legalized” it shortly before his death and Hitler’s final consolidation of power.
 
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frommi:
I still contend that any use of World War II era imagery…lest it be an allegory of being a “hitler” or something being the “holocaust”, is wholly in bad taste and totally inappropriate. I don’t care what side of the debate you are on.
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While I understand your remark, what about this analogy?:

Many Americans are just as ignorant and in denial about abortion as the many Germans were with the death camps a few miles from their towns in World War II.
 
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Ace86:
While I understand your remark, what about this analogy?:

Many Americans are just as ignorant and in denial about abortion as the many Germans were with the death camps a few miles from their towns in World War II.
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Why do you post things you disagree with just to publicly tear them a new one?
 
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Ace86:
While I understand your remark, what about this analogy?:

Many Americans are just as ignorant and in denial about abortion as the many Germans were with the death camps a few miles from their towns in World War II.
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Yes, of course, because abortion really is as bad as the holocaust
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And you wonder why normal people are afraid to go to Church these days?
 
St.Sharky said:
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Yes, of course, because abortion really is as bad as the holocaust
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And you wonder why normal people are afraid to go to Church these days?
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Yes, abortion is actually much worse. Since Roe, 45 million innocent human beings have been slaughtered by abortion, while only about 10 million were killed in the holocaust.

On topic, the article said:
But the outspoken Senator stuck to his belief that statements from Rome saying that homosexuality was “objectively evil” and “intrinsically disordered” were “in line with the prejudices that included Hitler and Himmler”.
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I wonder why he doesn’t compare the belief that adultery is “objectively evil”, or the belief that schizophrenia is “intrinsically disordered” with Hitler’s ideology?
Another example of the inability of certain people to understand that these phrases refer to actions, not to people. That is the consequence, though, of the tendency among liberals not to believe in free will - people are not seen as choosing their actions, but as being their actions. Not a very healthy or hopeful way of looking at human behavior, or so it seems to me. If I didn’t choose my actions, I cannot act differently in the future - how depressing.
Actually, there is some truth to it, in that concupisence wounds our free will, but there is also hope, because of God’s grace, that we can overcome it. Maybe, then, that’s why we seem harsh to secularists - we are treating people as though they could control themselves, when lacking God’s grace, they really can’t.
I begin to think more and more that the secular worldview is hopeless, and that there is no point in trying to reason with secularists on their own terms, since this means ignoring what we know to be true. Perhaps our energy would be better spent on trying to promote the Catholic faith as a whole, instead of arguing about issues from a secular perspective.
 
Abortion is MUCH worse actually.

I don’t know anyone thats afraid to go to Chruch… I guess one of the reasons might that they are afraid of or don’t want to hear the turth?

St.Sharky said:
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Yes, of course, because abortion really is as bad as the holocaust
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And you wonder why normal people are afraid to go to Church these days?
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Ace86:
Every SANE person knows that Benedict was forced to be a part of the Hitler Youth, just like every good German boy and girl at that time. And you’re right, it shouldn’t surprise us, because those kind of people are sick. One day, they’ll be advocating pedophilia.
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Fantastic leap there…well done.
 
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Jaypeeto3:
Actually, before the Night of the Long Knives,
an entire contingent of the Nazi Party, namely
Ernst Roehm’s SA, was comprised of Nazi Homosexuals.

Jaypeeto3
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Yes indeed, Hitler considered homosexuality to be natural but inccurable, thus the carting off of homosexuals and their marking with pink triagles on their uniforms before gassing.

And, of course, Hitler claimed to be Christian. “interesting” if not actually “true”.
 
St.Sharky said:
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Yes, of course, because abortion really is as bad as the holocaust
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And you wonder why normal people are afraid to go to Church these days?
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Both are equally as sickening: the holocaust b/c people were killed for simply being Jewish, handicapped, or Communist, etc. and Abortion b/c your killing a baby for simply being an unwanted baby.
 
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Both are equally as sickening: the holocaust b/c people were killed for simply being Jewish, handicapped, or Communist, etc. and Abortion b/c your killing a baby for simply being an unwanted baby.
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take what hitler, stalin, Osama bin-laden and Hussein did, all rolled up into a ball it doesn’t even compare to the evils America promotes, with abortion at the pinnacle of all of them.
 
John Paul (in Brazil) said that abortion was the most UNJUST execution of ALL. (my emphasis).

Think of it this way: Inmates get food, a chance to repent, and shelter. Aborted babies don’t even get to see the Sun.
 
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Ace86:
John Paul (in Brazil) said that abortion was the most UNJUST execution of ALL. (my emphasis).

Think of it this way: Inmates get food, a chance to repent, and shelter. Aborted babies don’t even get to see the Sun.
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bones_IV:
take what hitler, stalin, Osama bin-laden and Hussein did, all rolled up into a ball it doesn’t even compare to the evils America promotes, with abortion at the pinnacle of all of them.
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I’d say anything someone might want to clasify as evil in this country is shot out of the water by abortion.
 
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