Popes Upset the Humanists

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Humanists and atheists from East and West meet in Paris next week to forge a common platform against what they see as a growing threat from religions and religious politicians to secular states across the globe.

Their gathering, the World Humanist Congress, is timed to coincide with the 100th anniversary of the French Law on the Separation of Religion and State, a key document which set France alongside the United States as a bulwark of secularism.

“With US society sliding towards theocracy, and religious belief – even fundamentalism – on the rise in every continent we have to take a stand,” says Roy Brown, President of the International Humanist and Ethical Union (IHEU).

The IHEU, which is organising the Congress together with the French freethinkers’ body Libre Pensee, is a global umbrella organisation for humanists, secularists and atheists and has 95 member organisations in 35 countries…

"European humanists, delighted at success in their campaign to keep any reference to a deity out of the troubled European Union constitution, were shaken at what many call the ‘media madness’ over the death of Pope John Paul II.

In protests to newspapers and broadcasting bodies, they argued that the saturation coverage of his funeral – and the inauguration of his successor – amounted to free advertising for Catholicism at the expense of rational thought.

Humanists note that his successor, Pope Benedict, has declared the Enlightenment “one of the greatest evils to have befallen mankind” and vowed to fight secularism.

Across the Atlantic, US humanists and atheists see Christian fundamentalists backing ‘born-again’ President George W. Bush extending their influence into the schools, science laboratories and even into famed museums.

They argue this is a threat to social harmony, setting the religious not only against non-believers but also against each other. “Surely we are on the brink of religious factionalism,” wrote Paul Kurtz, editor of the journal Free Inquiry. …

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Looks like our Pope both current and our late Pope has upset anti-Christ teachings:clapping: :dancing: :clapping:
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Looks like our Pope both current and our late Pope has upset anti-Christ teachings:clapping: :dancing: :clapping:
WOOOHOO I am glad they did!
Lisa N
 
Call them what they are: Inhumanists. Adherents of secular inhumanism.
 
“With US society sliding towards theocracy, and religious belief – even fundamentalism – on the rise in every continent we have to take a stand,”
:confused:

Are they living on the same planet? U.S. sliding towards theocracy? I WISH!
 
As someone who has worked side by side with politicians both liberal and conservative, and has been elected as conservative Republican, I understand some of the concern by the humanists.

I also understand their concern about the TV coverage “spamming” the world with Catholic images. Of course, since I live in the USA, I cannot conclude from such spamming that Catholicism is about to take over the government, because the government did not instruct such coverage to be given.

The media, even those who may hate the pope, treated it as the immense news story that it was. Like it or not, the pope has quite a bit of political and social influence over Catholics and non-Catholics alike. Even Catholic haters I knew actually believed JPII was a good man.

What I want to know is where are these humanists all the rest of the time when the media has been advertising for satan for years? Big news coverage about the pope only serves a small portion of what I’d call “equal time.” 🙂 We thank the media for exercising its responsibility in this regard, and to the humanists I’ll put on my sandbox 101 hat and say, "nah, nah. Turns out you don’t completely control the media, do you? Your political correctness just can’t seem to make a dent in the eagerness for people to watch the glorious and wonderful traditions of the Catholic Church.

You have to admit, it was pretty cool to see the entire planet of media outlets, fixated on the color of the smoke. Hey, if you can’t catch them with theology, hypnotize them using shiny things you know they’re attracted to. That rules! 👍

Yes, humanists, the media did a great job of covering this event and yes, it did amount to free Catholic advertising. I suggest you go write to every newspaper and TV station and sound off because it was they, not the evil Catholics, who decided this was newsworthy. Too bad your complaints will arrive too late to prevent it! 😃

Alan
 
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Ghosty:
Are they living on the same planet? U.S. sliding towards theocracy? I WISH!
I hope not. Evil men wielding guns is bad enough. Evil men wielding guns and claiming that what they do is justified by God is pretty scary.

As one philosopher put it, if you are going to do evil, do it for purely selfish reasons. Don’t do it in the name of God because you will become a vicious monster. There is nothing worse than a misguided power-hungry human leader, claiming to be acting on an authority greater than himself and thereby can dismiss any attempt to dissuade him.

Alan
 
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HagiaSophia:
In protests to newspapers and broadcasting bodies, they argued that the saturation coverage of his funeral – and the inauguration of his successor – amounted to free advertising for Catholicism at the expense of rational thought.
This is where the liberals have it completely backwards (ok, I know, they have most things backwards).

Catholicism embraces rational thought. Liberals reject it and replace it with impulse, feelings, and desires.
 
WITH “FRIENDS” LIKE THE HUMANISTS, who needs “communists”? Atheism didn’t work there, why do they think it will work better in Europe? What were they fighting in WWII?

We bailed out France TWICE, I say the next time, let them fend for themselves. They just don’t get it.
 
I hope not. Evil men wielding guns is bad enough. Evil men wielding guns and claiming that what they do is justified by God is pretty scary.
As one philosopher put it, if you are going to do evil, do it for purely selfish reasons. Don’t do it in the name of God because you will become a vicious monster. There is nothing worse than a misguided power-hungry human leader, claiming to be acting on an authority greater than himself and thereby can dismiss any attempt to dissuade him.
The Church is a theocracy. Do you view it the way you just described? You seem to be assuming that theocracy = selfishness. A true theocracy would be anything but, because God, Theos, is not selfish.
 
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David_Paul:
Call them what they are: Inhumanists. Adherents of secular inhumanism.
What really fries me is that MSM folks pretend humanism is an excuse for immoral decadent excess.
Real humanism emmanated from goodly Catholic teaching .
 
Yes. The humanists are killers. Euthansia, abortion, explaining away the Holodomor by saying “you can’t make an omelet without breaking some eggs” they have been anything but humane.
 
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David_Paul:
Yes. The humanists are killers. Euthansia, abortion, explaining away the Holodomor by saying “you can’t make an omelet without breaking some eggs” they have been anything but humane.
Although 7-14 million Ukrainian people were deliberately murdered under Lazar Kaganovich’s dictats, few know this. The New York Times was especially effective in lying to cover up. Even today the google search engine used their might to nitpick through this massive killing to feaure links that downplay the mega-crimes of Kagnovich.
 
Lizzie…Try finding out what happened to Catholics in the Baltic states and Poland 1940-41 on google.

You will wade through endless pages on post 1941 events–few of which refer to Catholic deaths and imprisonments . The events from the summer of 1945 to 1953 in those regions is alway hard to find.

20th century history is being truncated to 1942-1945.
 
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David_Paul:
Lizzie…Try finding out what happened to Catholics in the Baltic states and Poland 1940-41 on google.

You will wade through endless pages on post 1941 events–few of which refer to Catholic deaths and imprisonments . The events from the summer of 1945 to 1953 in those regions is alway hard to find.

20th century history is being truncated to 1942-1945.
You are being most polite in saying that 20th century history has been truncated into these three years.

It is sad to see that few acknowledge or know that more than one hundred and twenty million people were murdered during this past century by the folks that call themselves Reds/anarchists/communists/progressives.
 
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HagiaSophia:
Humanists and atheists from East and West meet in Paris next week to forge a common platform against what they see as a growing threat from religions and religious politicians to secular states across the globe.
It’s clear those religions and religious politicians are doing the right thing then. Keep up the good work!
 
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