Popes with facial hair?

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johnnyt3000 said:
Why haven’t our recent Pope’s have facial hair?
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They’re from a time period and a culture where being clean-shaven is a sign of being cultured, and lately there hasn’t been a push for an “uncultured” pope (so to speak).
 
I wouldn’t mind seeing Francis go for the Julius II look -

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The beard of Pope Julius has sorrowful connotations:

Raphael: Pope Julius II - 1511–12, London, National Gallery
The picture can be fairly accurately dated by the presence of Julius’s beard. In 1511 the papal city of Bologna was lost and Julius vowed to grow a beard as a mark of remorse. In March 1512 he shaved it off. The next year he was dead and Raphael’s skills were at the disposal of a new pontiff.
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Michelangelo’s Lost Statue of Julius II …
Along with his beard, which Julius was the first pope to grow, Michelangelo’s design later became the model for all the great papal statues that came later. But that trend did not start right away after Julius’ death in 1513. It started in real life when Clement VII gew a beard as a sign of mourning after the sack of Rome in 1527. And we see him still wearing it in Bandinelli’s design for his tomb. After Clement, all the popes wore beards until Innocent XII died in 1700.
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amsjj said:
The beard of Pope Julius has sorrowful connotations:

Raphael: Pope Julius II - 1511–12, London, National Gallery
The picture can be fairly accurately dated by the presence of Julius’s beard. In 1511 the papal city of Bologna was lost and Julius vowed to grow a beard as a mark of remorse. In March 1512 he shaved it off. The next year he was dead and Raphael’s skills were at the disposal of a new pontiff.
worldsbestpaintings.net/artistsandpaintings/painting/66/

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Michelangelo’s Lost Statue of Julius II …
Along with his beard, which Julius was the first pope to grow, Michelangelo’s design later became the model for all the great papal statues that came later. But that trend did not start right away after Julius’ death in 1513. It started in real life when Clement VII gew a beard as a sign of mourning after the sack of Rome in 1527. And we see him still wearing it in Bandinelli’s design for his tomb. After Clement, all the popes wore beards until Innocent XII died in 1700.
ancientworlds.net/aw/Post/1016331&alert=0
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Well, if Julius had that, St. Pius V sure as heck didn’t… I mean, his ponitifcate was pretty awesome! (as well as his beard) 😃

 
amsjj said:
The beard of Pope Julius has sorrowful connotations:

Raphael: Pope Julius II - 1511–12, London, National Gallery
The picture can be fairly accurately dated by the presence of Julius’s beard. In 1511 the papal city of Bologna was lost and Julius vowed to grow a beard as a mark of remorse. In March 1512 he shaved it off. The next year he was dead and Raphael’s skills were at the disposal of a new pontiff.
worldsbestpaintings.net/artistsandpaintings/painting/66/

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Michelangelo’s Lost Statue of Julius II …
Along with his beard, which Julius was the first pope to grow, Michelangelo’s design later became the model for all the great papal statues that came later. But that trend did not start right away after Julius’ death in 1513. It started in real life when Clement VII gew a beard as a sign of mourning after the sack of Rome in 1527. And we see him still wearing it in Bandinelli’s design for his tomb. After Clement, all the popes wore beards until Innocent XII died in 1700.
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Hah, and to think I was just being flippant. Interesting that he chose to grow a beard as a sign of remorse. Was that a tradition back then or just something he decided on?
 
SpidersfromMars said:
Hah, and to think I was just being flippant. Interesting that he chose to grow a beard as a sign of remorse. Was that a tradition back then or just something he decided on?
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It was an ancient Roman tradition that Julius brought back.
 
SpidersfromMars said:
Hah, and to think I was just being flippant. Interesting that he chose to grow a beard as a sign of remorse. Was that a tradition back then or just something he decided on?
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Another great papal beard brought on by remorse, this time over the sack of Rome, is that of Clement VII

 
I’d be all for a Pope with a beard, I think they add gravitas.

That said, I think if a Pope had a mustache or a goatee or something, it would bother me, though I don’t really know why.
 
McCall1981 said:
I’d be all for a Pope with a beard, I think they add gravitas.

That said, I think if a Pope had a mustache or a goatee or something, it would bother me, though I don’t really know why.
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Careful.:mad:

😉
 
McCall1981 said:
I’d be all for a Pope with a beard, I think they add gravitas.

That said, I think if a Pope had a mustache or a goatee or something, it would bother me, though I don’t really know why.
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Like Innocent XII (see post 9 above)?
 
dmar198 said:
They’re from a time period and a culture where being clean-shaven is a sign of being cultured, and lately there hasn’t been a push for an “uncultured” pope (so to speak).
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Well, I guess my theory just got blown up by this post. But somehow there’s something in it – maybe it would be better to add “or well-trimmed” to “clean-shaven”? Or maybe it’s something that applies more as you age? Eh… someone else think on my behalf, I’m going to bed.
 
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