Porn and academic study

[jfhh]

Three questions, two are hypothetical (AFAIK), one faces many individuals today and may face many more in the future.

Hypothetical ones

A. If a college/university REQUIRES a course where porn exposure is part of the course material, would you be obliged to AVOID applying to that college?

B. If you are ALREADY at a college and FIND OUT or there’s a CHANGE and a course like in A is required, are you required to transfer/drop out?

Real one

C. If a colllege OFFERS a course like in A as an elective, is it EVER morally licit to take it. If so, what determines that? Is it dependent on how MUCH an occasion of sin it would be? What if based on past experience exposure to porn leads to sin for you in only 1 out of 20 occasions – would that be TOO MUCH occasion of sin or within an acceptable level to justify taking the course? 1 out of 3? 1 out of 100? Does it depend on how IMPORTANT it might be to take the course (in terms of your academic aspirations/interests or marketability for admission to other schools or positions)?

Same questions would apply to those teaching or doing research. What if you are employed by a research team and they are moving on to a new project involving porn and quiting would negatively impact your marketability or damage the quality of references?

If you want you can just ignore the hyopthetical questions.

 

[JimG]

I don’t know the answer for sure. I think it would depend on the nature of the course and how detached an individual could remain.

It is not hypothetical. A younger friend of mine–not Catholic–told me that at his state college nearly everyone took a course called “Human Sexuality.” The course was pretty explicit from day one, and one of the assignments was to attend a local porn movie theater, which a group of them did together.

Somehow I can’t see myself taking such a course or consenting to such a ‘homework assignment.’ I don’t recall if this was a required course, but it was one of a very few limited options for undergraduates in a particular humanities program. (I wonder how many of their parents knew what they were paying for?)

 

[TLM08]

Three questions, two are hypothetical (AFAIK), one faces many individuals today and may face many more in the future.

Hypothetical ones

A. If a college/university REQUIRES a course where porn exposure is part of the course material, would you be obliged to AVOID applying to that college?

B. If you are ALREADY at a college and FIND OUT or there’s a CHANGE and a course like in A is required, are you required to transfer/drop out?

Real one

C. If a colllege OFFERS a course like in A as an elective, is it EVER morally licit to take it. If so, what determines that? Is it dependent on how MUCH an occasion of sin it would be? What if based on past experience exposure to porn leads to sin for you in only 1 out of 20 occasions – would that be TOO MUCH occasion of sin or within an acceptable level to justify taking the course? 1 out of 3? 1 out of 100? Does it depend on how IMPORTANT it might be to take the course (in terms of your academic aspirations/interests or marketability for admission to other schools or positions)?

Same questions would apply to those teaching or doing research. What if you are employed by a research team and they are moving on to a new project involving porn and quiting would negatively impact your marketability or damage the quality of references?

If you want you can just ignore the hyopthetical questions.

Nobody has to watch pornography to understand what it is. Are we really that dim as to not understand that it involves people fornicating on cameras? It’s not complicated. There is nothing to study!

The truth is… VERY few college age men can view pornography during the day and refrain from masturbating to the hideous “mental replay” of the so called course material later that night. Porn and masturbation go hand in hand. There is no other reason for pornography to exist. Come on fellas, I’ve been there and done that. We really need to stop kidding ourselves!

Satan likes to work this stuff into our college curricula because he thinks it’s funny. If your professor wants to put a bunch of college aged men and women into a room and put on a porn flick, what do you think he’s up to at night? What is a college education worth if it puts you at risk of spending an eternity in Hell?

Do you think Jesus would sit there and watch this stuff for class credit? Find another class to take. Your professor is a pervert.

 

[requiemaeturnum]

My God, do you even need to ask such a vulgar question?

Avoid secular colleges at all costs. They will brainwash you with modernism, indiferrentism, and all imaginable heresies.

 

[NFPgirl]

My God, do you even need to ask such a vulgar question?

Avoid secular colleges at all costs. They will brainwash you with modernism, indiferrentism, and all imaginable heresies.

Hate to burst your bubble, but there are a number of colleges that are affiliated with Christian institutions that have core (or required) curricula that are filled with modernism, relativism, heretical teachings, and indifferent professors.

Just because a school is secular doesn’t mean it’s bad. Just because a school calls itself Christian or is affiliated with a Christian church of some sort doesn’t mean it is all good. The wise and prudent Christian should seek to have a well-informed conscience and doing so, do much research on a variety of schools, what their requirements are, what kinds of professors teach there, etc, etc. before making a decision on what school to attend.

I attended a non-secular school that was affiliated with a prominent mainline Protestant church and proudly proclaimed its affiliation. This school even had a required Bible survey class which used an unabridged version of the Bible (aka what’s commonly known as the Catholic version of the Bible) rather than the abridged version that most of its students carried in their backpacks. I encountered a LOT of modernism, indifferent professors, moral relativism, and some outright heretical teaching – and I’m just talking about Christian doctrine, not even Catholic Christian doctrine. Having attended this school and knowing what I know from others who have attended similar schools, I think I’m pretty well-informed.

I guess what it boils down to is: don’t judge a school on the basis of whether or not it is affiliated with a particular church. Go deeper before you make a judgment call.

Pax,
NFPgirl

 

[PoliSciProf]

A lot depends on the curriculum. Students pursuing an MD or even an RN often are required to view material that in other contexts could be considered pornography. This is meant help them understand the variety of sexual practices that they will encounter in the course of taking medical/sexual histories and understanding such in order to make counseling and clinical decisions without being shocked by what they might be told. I think this is legitimate. On the other hand, I once knew a biologist who taught an undergrad human sexuality course whose only purpose was to liberate her students from what she called “prejudices” and “religious bigotry.” In short she had an ideological agenda that I believe was unacceptable. In my experience, such courses are usually founded in some Feminist Studies and Wymins Studies (not a typo) programs which IMHO should not be part of a genuine liberal education.

 

[requiemaeturnum]

Hate to burst your bubble, but there are a number of colleges that are affiliated with Christian institutions that have core (or required) curricula that are filled with modernism, relativism, heretical teachings, and indifferent professors.

Just because a school is secular doesn’t mean it’s bad. Just because a school calls itself Christian or is affiliated with a Christian church of some sort doesn’t mean it is all good. The wise and prudent Christian should seek to have a well-informed conscience and doing so, do much research on a variety of schools, what their requirements are, what kinds of professors teach there, etc, etc. before making a decision on what school to attend.

I attended a non-secular school that was affiliated with a prominent mainline Protestant church and proudly proclaimed its affiliation. This school even had a required Bible survey class which used an unabridged version of the Bible (aka what’s commonly known as the Catholic version of the Bible) rather than the abridged version that most of its students carried in their backpacks. I encountered a LOT of modernism, indifferent professors, moral relativism, and some outright heretical teaching – and I’m just talking about Christian doctrine, not even Catholic Christian doctrine. Having attended this school and knowing what I know from others who have attended similar schools, I think I’m pretty well-informed.

I guess what it boils down to is: don’t judge a school on the basis of whether or not it is affiliated with a particular church. Go deeper before you make a judgment call.

Pax,
NFPgirl

Actually I knew that. I was saying that secular universities are probably worse than these “Catholic” ones.

 

[YipYupYep]

My God, do you even need to ask such a vulgar question?

Avoid secular colleges at all costs. They will brainwash you with modernism, indiferrentism, and all imaginable heresies.

Ya think?

Let me tell you, a Jesieut college would be no better, maybe worse. Take a hard look at there web sites and see what they promote and expose our Catholic young adults to.

 

[CapIV]

give me a break. Talking about porn in an academic circle is fine. VIEWING pornography under the guise of “education” is absurd. These people are just rationalizing their perversion. It’s just an attempt to make porn more acceptable. Do they have drug classes that include trying out illicit drugs in the name of “education”? Do they have classes discussing sexuality with engaging in intercourse in the name of “education”?

In short, don’t take the course.