Well if you believe you are doing wrong then get rid of the pictures. IMO you are fine but I have a different point of view.Humm. Me either. maybe accrding to the Church I do. That’s what I’m looking for. Yes I do have jpegs of women. But if I’m doing wrong according to the church I need to do something. Perhaps you’re not seeing it.
If you want a good, kind, generous loving and chaste woman who respects you, you need to be a good, kind, generous and chaste man who respects women. Men and women generally seek out their own. Human beings seek what they understand and the saddest thing about abuse is: children grow up understanding abuse.
You say you despise these woman and yet you have a collection of photographs of women you despise. Can’t you see the disconnect in that?
Once I was at work and a young woman kept “bothering” me. She later said she was told I had a “crush” on her. I didn’t and someone had no business saying that. IDk what she was wanting out of me, Maybe she needed someone and she fits your and my description perfectly. Her mom let her do as she pleased. Well I wasn’t interested in raising people’s kids for them. She told me she ran away with a boyfriend and was raped on a grey hound bus. I didn’t know what to say. Her first problem was running away. While she worked there she had an older man over and said she said she didn’t know what was in his “flask”. I thought oh boy. But he tried something with her. This man was a mean drunk and was carrying on at work one day and a man slapped him and put him to the floor. Sad things indeed.
Strong disagree.
What’s your take? Interested to hear from a secular a female perspective
Don’t panic? If your gaze is, as appears in this thread, heading straight for “certain parts” everytime, there’s something wrong. That in itself is not natural, and pretty degrading to folks.
“Don’t panic” doesn’t mean “go ahead and stare.” It just means that you probably don’t need to rush off to confession. Just calmly recognize that you’re ogling and try to put your mind on something else. If men had to confess every time they caught themselves checking out a woman’s chest or butt they’d basically never leave the confessional line.
English in my first language. Who are you talking too? What is confusing.
I am assuming your female and your point of view is welcomed much. There are woman that naturally or not are…well let me say very well “endowed”. And they like to show it. Some go half dressed. A man’s likely going too if for even a second,they will look. Of course no comments. Some women might not mind others seem to be looking for trouble. But that’s people I guess. But what do you think about a situation like that?A female exposed? And nudity the church says I’m well aware of it’s the problem. Porn is. I’m a bit confused on this
This line of thinking is dangerous. Deacon, forgive me if I am misunderstanding your comment. I probably am, as this topic hits a nerve.I see. No I have no wife. So I am probably screwed up for looking. According what I have been reading. Perhaps relationship problems. More I guess I could say, admoration or perhaps lusting or on the verge of it anyway.So if that is wrong the looking for the same reason at nudity would be wrong too. Why else would anyone look at nudity? Very few reasons as mentioned above medically perhaps. Fantasizing would be more like it.
… but just in case, I am not, well get ready for my rant. 
I hope this is not what you are implying. Men don’t get to violate the rules of modesty just because they tell themselves they are not lusting. Is it OK for a group of grown men to walk in on someone’s daughter or wife while showering? As long as they say, hey, don’t worry, we’re not lusting, we’re just appreciating your grand design of the feminine, she should be OK with it? Would that make everything right with God? Of course not. Men who keep parroting this grave error sound like they are just trying to come up with excuses to unwrap gifts that don’t belong to them. The parts of a woman’s body that involve sexual reproduction are an exclusive gift to her husband and only her husband. Breasts are also (for a given period of time) a gift to her babies. Men taking pleasure from women they are not married to are trespassing where they have no right to go. It is a huge deal to violate something so Holy between two married people.You’re right. Well said.This line of thinking is dangerous. The OP is not talking about the Sistine chapel, he is talking about someone’s wife, mother, sister or daughter. The Catholic Church does not teach that it is fine to look at naked women provided you are “appreciating the beauty of her gentle curves”.
I think screwtape must have come up with the idea of some men magically having immunity from concupiscence and so now they can look at naked women just so long as they label certain naked pictures, tasteful and therefore not porn, then they can continue deceiving themselves. Meanwhile what message does this send to women and little girls?
I once walked into a room and on the tv there were completely nude women reading the news. They weren’t doing anything to incite lust. Reading doesn’t meet the definition of porn so does that mean there is nothing wrong with it? Can we all hear the news and enjoy the gentle curves of God’s design? Of course not. A woman is not an art object for men to enjoy even if they aren’t lusting. Unveiling that which should remain veiled until marriage is wrong even if it technically isn’t defined as porn.
The only time someone can look at the naked body of the opposite sex is in marriage. After that exceptions are made if the principle of double effect comes into play ie medical necessity, woman giving birth in elevator alone with man not her husband, forensics etc.
If someone thinks it is fine to use the sense of sight to see a woman unclothed (provided you are not lusting), then I guess you could make the argument that as long as you don’t lust, you can use the sense of touch to feel a woman’s gentle curves in order to appreciate her beauty! Extremely perilous line of thinking.
There have always been Christians promoting nudism throughout the ages and the Church has rightly declared them in error. I am not accusing anyone here of that, but just saying this is what follows from being deceived. It is bad fruit.
To the OP, Bishop Fulton Sheen gave a talk and said, “love of nudity” was one of the signs of the demonic. Perhaps, spend some quiet time after Mass in prayer and talk to Jesus and Mary about it. After the fall, God clothed us for a reason. Don’t let the nudists and naturalists convince you otherwise. They will take you down a dark path. Peace.
I was talking to you. I get what you’re saying, but your writing is a little disjointed sometimes.
Thank you. I don’t hear that often!
Thing is there have been some Christians going around promoting just that. Not saying Deacon Jeff holds that belief, but just letting you know it exists and has caused division. My apologies if I came across as disrespectful. I was sitting in Mass today worrying about it. I tend to be pretty blunt.