Portland parish protests new priest’s policies

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@CTBcin Thank you for pointing out the bias apparent in the secular “news” piece. ❤️
 
Would it even be a sin to just throw rainbow vestments into the garbage? I feel like that is exactly where they belong. Aren’t even dignified to be burned.
 
No, I only meant outreach large enough that they have a lot of volunteers from out-of-parish coming in to help. It is sort of a nucleus site.
 
When something is set aside for sacred use and blessed, it is disposed of in a respectful manner. It is never just thrown in the trash. I feel very confident the pastor would never dispose of textiles that had been put to sacred use, even if he didn’t think it appropriate to use them any more.
It is like a glass chalice. You dispose of it properly even though it wouldn’t be used again because it isn’t proper to use a chalice made of breakable material.
 
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As others have said it is ironic that there is a bunch of baby boomer age people upset because an immigration sign was removed by a priest who is an immigrant. I agree, protesters making no sense.

Makes no sense either that the woman in the back with the sign is shouting that they are following the voice of Jesus, the voice of love, the voice of inclusion and then later when she is up at the ambo and a young man comes in and stands up for the priest she tells him to get out because he doesn’t belong there. Not very inclusive.

The priest is apparently being obedient to his bishop. Praying for him.
But the protestors say as they resist authority they are in the spirit of God. Scripture says rebellion is the same as witchcraft and idolatry.
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Here’s a different and more secular take on what happened.
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I noticed in this article, they say that George Kuforiji is the new priest but never call him Father Kuforiji. Reading that article made me realize it is worse than what it first seemed.
 
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Neither the priest nor anyone from the Archdiocese was interviewed or spoken to.
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From the article, which admittedly was very one-sided:

An archdiocese spokesman turned down multiple requests to interview Sample or Kuforiji.

Looks like the reporter tried to get the church’s side of the story.
 
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Looks like the reporter tried to get the church’s side of the story.
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That could very well be. But given the tone of the rest of the story, I wonder if the multiple (had to be more than one to be a legitimate use of the word, but how many exactly?) requests were phrased in such a way or had such conditions attached that neither the Archbishop nor the Pastor could agree. Not saying they were, but I just wonder.
 
Without going back up-thread, I’m assuming it was the Oregonian. If so, and if memory serves, it would make the SF Chronicle look conservative.
 
I happen to live in Oregon and am familiar with a number of the parishes there, including Portland. St Francis of Assisi in Portland is an aberration. and not a new one. It was “progressive” 45 to 50 years ago if not more. Archbishop Sample is the 7th archbishop Since Vatican 2 (and two others were subsequently made Cardinal - George and Laveda) and I would be a bit hesitant to say that none of the predecessors tried to assist that parish onto the right path. But has been said elsewhere, priests (and bishops) come and go, but parishioners remain in place.
 
Laity have been allowed on the altar before Vatican 2.Your comment has nothing to do with what has been going on in that parish for decades. It has to do woith the "progressive"end of those who call themselves Catholic but have left the Magisterium far far behind. Making blanket statements over a matter of which you have extremely minimal knowledge is not helpful to anyone.
 
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From the article, which admittedly was very one-sided:

An archdiocese spokesman turned down multiple requests to interview Sample or Kuforiji .

Looks like the reporter tried to get the church’s side of the story.
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Okay. I do admit that I skimmed a little… it was a long article.

Still, the article seemed to take interviews from parishioners protesting Fr. Kuforiji and not from those who were supportive of him. And the story was definitely framed in a biased way, as you mentioned.
 
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It sounds like they are still going to be helping the poor, except Catholic Charities will assist with it. That will help with funding, and get more volunteers potentially involved besides just parishioners, as well as removing the program from the leadership of parishioners who may simply not be up to the task, and heaven knows the one priest is probably stretched thin. From what I have read there have also been some issues with homeless people who are being helped and their interactions with the neighbors, and I’m sure Catholic Charities has more experience and resources to deal with that situation than a bunch of parish volunteers.
 
@MiserereMeiDei

“Without going back upthread, I’m assuming it’s the Oregonian. If so, and if memory serves, it would make the SF Chronicle look conservative.”

LOL! Ain’t THAT the truth!

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
 
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I wonder how many of these folks actually marched for civil rights and how many only became activists after racism became taboo?
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Ummm, with the way those white folk spoke to their priest, I think they are racists.
They want it their way, or the highway.
They flat -out judged that gentleman without any attempt to understand his cultural values.
In fact, they showed blatant disregard and contempt for him.
Trust me, these types of women get real nasty, real quick, when they perceive someone to cross their cultural values.
It’s about them, and their white privilege, to determine what is right/wrong, fair/just, good or bad for everyone else. They want their white bread world according to their own truths.

I know that sounds harsh, but 99.99% of the time it’s the truth.
 
It would be interesting to see what other signs they have hung over the past 50 years. I’m guessing they would be a direct reflection of left-wing causes from decade to decade.
 
Further insights from the Catholic Herald:

One of the protesters asked Fr George, “How can you be a priest?” Suggesting he did not have the authority to change their local customs of worship, she asserted her own authority: “I’ve been here for over 15 years. You’ve been here a year.”

Without a hint of clericalism, Fr George simply asked in reply, “Do you have reverence for God?” The woman turned her back on the question, which is a pity because it’s the only one which matters.

https://catholicherald.co.uk/commen...r-courageous-priests-like-fr-george-kuforiji/
 
I don’t think they’re racist. I’m not there, but I don’t think they accept the authority that comes with being pastor, even when the pastor has not been ordained for a long time. That’s not to say a pastor can’t handle his duties in the wrong way or that there aren’t some ways of making changes that don’t cause more distress than other ways (I’m not speaking to that) but just that a pastor rightfully has authority regardless of whether he handles things in some “best” way or not, just as parents do.
 
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