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My sisters and i want to start veiling but what about children? Old school catholics say children used to have to wear a doilie sort of thing on their heads or they couldnt even come into the church. Im making mantillas for us this weekend and i would like to know if a 4 year old is young enough to veil. I say its never too early to learn about honor and respect towards our dear lord and to know that the bible says we must have our heads covered in prayer, but i need someone elses take. what does everyone else think??
 
It’s been a long time but it seems to me that back in the day Mom would wait for one of my sisters to ask… ‘where’s my veil?’…

I suppose it could have been a maturity thing that Mom waited to see in the girls.

btw I think veiling is a lovely and reverent thing to do.
 
I think wearing a head covering is a lovely thing to do.

I think referring to it as “veiling” is ridiculous and misleading since Catholics do not hide the face.
 
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My sisters and i want to start veiling but what about children? Old school catholics say children used to have to wear a doilie sort of thing on their heads or they couldnt even come into the church. Im making mantillas for us this weekend and i would like to know if a 4 year old is young enough to veil. I say its never too early to learn about honor and respect towards our dear lord and to know that the bible says we must have our heads covered in prayer, but i need someone elses take. what does everyone else think??
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As a child back in the day I can’t remember a time I did not wear a hat to cover my head at Mass.

Women wore hats and gloves often in those days for dressy occasions, and going to church would have been one of them. My mom had a little black head hugging hat with netting that came down over the forehead. (hmm, she’s 96, I bet it’s still in her closet!)

In my locality, I remember mantillas coming into fashion as I got older. I liked them because I have a large head and hats never fit well. 🙂

If you are making mantillas, by all means make one for your daughter!
 
I say veiling in the most sincere, dearest of ways out of love for my Lord, Jesus Christ, not as a way of saying I cover my face, only my hair. Sorry if my term was misleading. 🙂
 
If she is old enough to leave it on her head then she is old enough to wear it. There is no reason not to give a chapel veil to a little girl.

I found your use of the term “veiling” very easy to understand and do not see a problem with it.
 
Younger girls used to wear chapel caps. It’s less distracting for children. I could take it or leave it. I think it’s fine to wait until they’re mature enough to handle a veil. I’m a big fan of veils. I grew up post-V2 but while older women like my grandmother were still hanging on to their veils so I’ve always associated it with that old grandmother style piety.
 
I,ve gone to Latin Mass,and I see young girls wearing them ,besides their Mther, who also wears one. God bless
 
Same at our Latin Mass. Many women and some young girls in mantillas. Notably, they also dress exceptionally conservative, i.e., no cleavage, short skirts, tight outfits. I am very impressed by their efforts! At the same time, I begrudge no woman for not veiling themselves at Mass. To each his own.
 
I see little ones with veils all the time at our parish. Some ingenious mothers put a headband over it to keep it on the smallest girls.
 
Its a beautiful devotion, and I am pleased to report that I’ve seen a few twenty somethings wear them here in KC. It shouldn’t be mandatory perhaps, but its a beautiful devotion.
 
I wait until my daughters are school age to veil (5 years old). If my younger girl wants to then I veil her too.
 
rcandelaria said:
My sisters and i want to start veiling but what about children? Old school catholics say children used to have to wear a doilie sort of thing on their heads or they couldnt even come into the church. Im making mantillas for us this weekend and i would like to know if a 4 year old is young enough to veil. I say its never too early to learn about honor and respect towards our dear lord and to know that the bible says we must have our heads covered in prayer, but i need someone elses take. what does everyone else think??
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I have immense respect for women who go to Mass, and EVEN BIGGER AMOUNT of respect for women who wear the head coverings. God bless. 🙂
 
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rcandelaria:
My sisters and i want to start veiling but what about children? Old school catholics say children used to have to wear a doilie sort of thing on their heads or they couldnt even come into the church. Im making mantillas for us this weekend and i would like to know if a 4 year old is young enough to veil. I say its never too early to learn about honor and respect towards our dear lord and to know that the bible says we must have our heads covered in prayer, but i need someone elses take. what does everyone else think??
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I have immense respect for women who go to Mass, and** EVEN BIGGER AMOUNT of respect for women who wear the head coverings. ** God bless. 🙂
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Pray for the grace --to help you have the same type of respect – whether women wear head covering or not.
 
rcandelaria said:
My sisters and i want to start veiling but what about children? Old school catholics say children used to have to wear a doilie sort of thing on their heads or they couldnt even come into the church. Im making mantillas for us this weekend and i would like to know if a 4 year old is young enough to veil. I say its never too early to learn about honor and respect towards our dear lord and to know that the bible says we must have our heads covered in prayer, but i need someone elses take. what does everyone else think??
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Wow, I came for the exact same question. Im new to the forums, in the process of converting to Catholicism. And I am about to start veiling too! I was wondering about my two year old daughter. She wears hats very well, and really likes them…two seems too young, but she would probably like it if I could come up with some kind of special “hat” for her. I just want something that looks different than the ones she normally wears because I want to begin instilling in her that mass is special. I am making a scarf right now for tomorrow for myself. I haven’t seen anyone else in my parish wearing them so I am a little apprehensive, but it something I feel is important for me…so I am finally doing it. I am also worried about her trying to pull at my scarf or fiddle with it all the time. I’ll see how it goes.

Also, I had a question, I hear different things about when to wear them. Some say only during the consecration and while receiving communion. Others say anytime in a church where the blessed sacrament is present. I personally lean toward the latter, but does that mean when you are anywhere in the church building or just when you enter the sanctuary. The latter seems to make more sense to me, but I don’t want to be disrespectful. I just don’t see it being the same if I am attending a RCIA meeting, a CCW meeting, or meeting with the Deacon, or eating in the kitchen during an event. It just seems to make sense to don it when entering the sanctuary…thoughts?
 
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Also, I had a question, I hear different things about when to wear them. Some say only during the consecration and while receiving communion. Others say anytime in a church where the blessed sacrament is present. I personally lean toward the latter, but does that mean when you are anywhere in the church building or just when you enter the sanctuary. The latter seems to make more sense to me, but I don’t want to be disrespectful. I just don’t see it being the same if I am attending a RCIA meeting, a CCW meeting, or meeting with the Deacon, or eating in the kitchen during an event. It just seems to make sense to don it when entering the sanctuary…thoughts?
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I have been veiling for some years now and I do it the way that you are describing that you are thinking of doing it… It makes sense to me too.
 
Honour said:
Wow, I came for the exact same question. Im new to the forums, in the process of converting to Catholicism. And I am about to start veiling too! I was wondering about my two year old daughter. She wears hats very well, and really likes them…two seems too young, but she would probably like it if I could come up with some kind of special “hat” for her. I just want something that looks different than the ones she normally wears because I want to begin instilling in her that mass is special. I am making a scarf right now for tomorrow for myself. I haven’t seen anyone else in my parish wearing them so I am a little apprehensive, but it something I feel is important for me…so I am finally doing it. I am also worried about her trying to pull at my scarf or fiddle with it all the time. I’ll see how it goes.

Also, I had a question, I hear different things about when to wear them. Some say only during the consecration and while receiving communion. Others say anytime in a church where the blessed sacrament is present. I personally lean toward the latter, but does that mean when you are anywhere in the church building or just when you enter the sanctuary. The latter seems to make more sense to me, but I don’t want to be disrespectful. I just don’t see it being the same if I am attending a RCIA meeting, a CCW meeting, or meeting with the Deacon, or eating in the kitchen during an event. It just seems to make sense to don it when entering the sanctuary…thoughts?
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Those I know, just wear it during Mass. The 1917 canon law is a bit unclear:
Men, in a church or outside a church, while they are assisting at sacred rites, shall be bare-headed, unless the approved mores of the people or peculiar circumstances of things determine otherwise; women, however, shall have a covered head and be modestly dressed, especially when they approach the table of the Lord.
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I interpret that as “During any rite during which a sacrament is administered. E.g., Mass, confession. But at least during Mass.”
 
I started covering last year. I mainly use scarves, berets or bandanas/lace wraps. I have 2 girls and the older one has on occasion brought along something to wear I don’t force her to or even suggest it. To be fair though we don’t go to the Latin Mass very much at all and typically attend Divine Liturgy…when we go to the Ordinary Form I usually sit in the back and wear something that doesn’t stand out (brown or black as opposed to white or something brightly colored). This is b/c I’m an anxious person and I don’t like to attract attention to myself.
 
Also, I had a question, I hear different things about when to wear them. Some say only during the consecration and while receiving communion. Others say anytime in a church where the blessed sacrament is present. I personally lean toward the latter, but does that mean when you are anywhere in the church building or just when you enter the sanctuary. The latter seems to make more sense to me, but I don’t want to be disrespectful. I just don’t see it being the same if I am attending a RCIA meeting, a CCW meeting, or meeting with the Deacon, or eating in the kitchen during an event. It just seems to make sense to don it when entering the sanctuary…thoughts?
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Back in the 1960s we wore our hats anytime we entered the nave of the church. I never saw anyone put a hat on or take a hat off during Mass unless it fell off.

But perhaps the customs are different now. And I imagine veils might be easier to put on or take off than hats.
 
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