Positive Changes in your Parish Mass

[Faithdancer]

:frighten: I cannot imagine using the Apostles’ Creed at Mass. I think I would go catatonic.

I don’t know whether the Nicene Creed is considered too difficult, or too theological, by some priests- or whether they just object to the shift in the Third Missal back toward the original Latin text.

 

[YoungTradCath]

I don’t know whether the Nicene Creed is considered too difficult, or too theological, by some priests- or whether they just object to the shift in the Third Missal back toward the original Latin text.

I don’t know. Rubrics aside, which do unfortunately prescribe an unfettered allowance for the Apostles’ Creed now, I cannot recall an instance in at least the last thousand years of Roman tradition in which it has been used habitually in Mass. In fact, I do not know if it is part of the tradition of the Roman Mass at all.

=|

 

[waanju]

We haven’t used the Nicene Creed since November 2011, coinciding with the new Missal.

I note how whenever we have a visiting priest who leads the Nicene Creed, everyone looks baffled and then scrambles for the cheat sheets. Sometimes a visiting priest will lead the Confiteor, too, which isn’t otherwise done at all in our parish.

I seem to be the only one in our parish who receives kneeling or kneels after the Agnus Dei- only one other parishioner that I know of receives on the tongue and she is too frail to kneel.

I guess I just have a rebellious spirit.

I’m the only one who receives on the tongue as well.
Also, I ave NEVER heard the new translation of the Confiteor… I only know it changed because it’s printed on the mass cards.

 

[waanju]

I don’t know whether the Nicene Creed is considered too difficult, or too theological, by some priests- or whether they just object to the shift in the Third Missal back toward the original Latin text.

My priest said it’s too long and he likes the Apostle’s creed more.
Buuuuuuuuut he also hates the new translation, so that might play a role.

 

[smndtupidisaftr]

My priest said it’s too long and he likes the Apostle’s creed more.
Buuuuuuuuut he also hates the new translation, so that might play a role.

Is the use of English not casual enough?

 

[waanju]

Is the use of English not casual enough?

Well, in Sunday’s homily, he kept saying that Tridentine was “inaccessible” and that “participation is what makes the new mass great!” Then he moved on to the translation. His explanation of the translation was NOT that it was a better translation of the Latin that NO was written in , thus reflecting moire the way that certain passages are echoes of scripture, or that the old translation was particularly awful (I mean, we were the only ones that didn’t say “my fault my fault, my most grievous fault.” Every Spanish mass I went to had that! Not that we say the penitential right ANYWAYS, but it’s an example). Instead, he said something like “All popes change the mass up a bit. It keeps it fresh. things have to evolve or they become irrelevant” and went on to explain how “Pope Benedict likes things a little more formal. You probably find the words hard to say: con-substantial and such. But, we do have to use the new words, because we should obey the Pope. (Thank goodness for that line) Now, to be clear here, I’m talking about the form, not the rubrics. Rubrics take longer to explain, but they’re basically like the etiquette book for Mass, like Emily Post. ‘This candle should be 6.5 inches away from the edge of the altar’ that sort of thing (he said the last bit in a ‘posh’ voice)” He then went into a sort of “dialogue” type homily… which is annoying but in this case good because most of the congregation heard the definition of “mortal sin” for the first time.

Basically, my priest, though a very nice man, doesn’t think the rubrics are important… but I’m grateful to him anyways, because at least the mass is valid, if not licit.

 

[ProVobis]

Is the use of English not casual enough?

 

[YoungTradCath]

Well, in Sunday’s homily, he kept saying that Tridentine was “inaccessible” and that “participation is what makes the new mass great!”

 

[waanju]

I know. He asked “Who’s been to one?” and, seeing that I was the only one who had, asked me how I liked it. I think he was a little shocked when I said that it was beautiful and awe-inducing and that it was the most I’ve ever gotten out of any mass.

 

[Elizabeth502]

The good: very liberal parish now using Lamb of God three times during Mass, instead of creative varieties.

The bad: same parish still taking liberties with the reformed liturgy, and I know it’s not a matter of their not knowing, or forgetting, what the changes are. It’s a matter of stubbornness.

 

[looking_2_God]

I know. He asked “Who’s been to one?” and, seeing that I was the only one who had, asked me how I liked it. I think he was a little shocked when I said that it was beautiful and awe-inducing and that it was the most I’ve ever gotten out of any mass.

Good for you!!

The Tridentine Mass is deeply moving!

 

[anp1215]

A couple of people are starting to kneel after communion instead of just sitting!
And we got two candles!!!
There was also an attempt to use liturgical colors on the altar cloth (I say attempt because they were light blue- “It’s a shade of lavender guys, I promise. Purple. For Advent” according to Fr.)
AND THE CROWNING JEWEL—> We are going to have a Mass every Tuesday during Advent!!! And maybe even confession, if enough people are interested!

The last is a HUGE deal, since we don’t even get Sunday Mass every week and have to have Liturgy of the Word without a priest.

That is great! Is this in Los Angeles? Usually these sorts of things are more common in rural parishes.

As for me, I’m starting to go to my geographical parish again, and we used the Confiteor tonight, which I love.