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vjnycguy
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True, but not all of it is true. Although, I still agree possession is possible.
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Hunter24
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Yes, if you look back alot of the recorded ones in the past were likely mental illness but there are some which are just inexplicable.
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AB_Juney
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I agree, but I’m speaking more like the documentary type they use to show on Travel Channel; telling the story of a place, somewhere famous, and what the ghost supposedly does.
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vjnycguy
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Well that yes but the Syfi channel nonsense is mostly fake. The real historical documented proof places, yes.
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vjnycguy
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Very true. A lot of people confuse possession with mental issues but some cases are mind blowing, like it leaves you speechless.
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Hunter24
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I know, its insane! People levitate, walk on walls, speak Babylonian or Sumerian, its nuts! i hope i never have to deal with such violent spirits (knock on wood)
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AB_Juney
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I actually don’t like shows once they start “hunting”. I prefer just telling me about the spooky place, while I cower under my blankets and whimper
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indiancatholic
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What do you all think about astral projection and seeing shadows and spirits
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Hunter24
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Astral projection is definitely real
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vjnycguy
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I agree with that! It has very reliable resources to prove it.
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vjnycguy
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Seeing shadows people… well most of them are not friendly people. As their color is black. Spirits, like white colored floating smoke that takes a form of a human being… well I would say that they can’t hurt you. Shadow people… I would be scared to see a real one. Lot of people say they see them but it could just be their mind playing tricks as I have had a few times.
Astral project… very real.
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teeboy
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Mental illness, I believe is due to lack of repentance.
its temporal punishment.
God is just.
its temporal punishment.
God is just.
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teeboy
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Relying on medication for mental illness is a crutch and can be an act against God. You just as well accept your punishment and get over it through the sacraments and indulgences via corporal and spiritual acts of mercy.
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R_C
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Teeboy, I hope you are not being serious.
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teeboy
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I am serious.
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R_C
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Ok. Sorry then.
God is not a punisher, but a savior.
Mental illness - or by that matter, any illness - needs to be treated through any legitimate means that we have been able to elaborate through the God-given gift of our intellect.
The people of the Old Testament had this belief that sick people were somewhat cursed, “born in their sins”, or paying for sins, either individual or inherited. Christ was very clear: that is not so.
Christ said: “I was sick, and you visited me.” In the sick people, we see Christ. In treating them and helping them, we help Christ.
To bear our cross with patience, with holy resignation, that is a different matter. To disregard medical treatment is a greater offense to God, because we ought to take the greatest care of our body, which is not our own, but a temple of the Holy Spirit. To disregard spiritual treatment is equally offensive, of course.
“Suffering, illness, death, weaknesses of character and the inclination to sin” are “temporal consequences of sin” (CCC 1263-1264), not “temporal punishment”.
Remember that God’s mercy is far above His justice. The apostle James said that “mercy triumphs over judgment”, and it must necessarily be so: in justice God condemned us, but in mercy He became man, suffered, and died while we were still sinners. Our redemption was not a work of justice, but of mercy.
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AB_Juney
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Glad you think I’m a sinful little wench
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Hunter24
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This is why so many people no longer take Christianity seriously…
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Therana
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I was raised a Protestant faith tradition that more or less ignored the paranormal; it just wasn’t something that was talked about. When it was, it was from a sort of cessationist standpoint. Yes, people were possessed by demons in the Bible, but that doesn’t happen anymore. Others adamantly deny the paranormal altogether and say that people experiencing such things are either lying or crazy. One thing I find comforting about Catholicism is that they don’t deny the existence of ghosts and demons, but still approach it with a great deal of caution. I don’t really fear ghosts or demons as much as I used to because now my faith gives me answers about it. I take comfort in the fact that if my house was ever haunted or I was plagued by an evil spirit, I could turn to a priest for answers and help.
I worry about my sister though. She’s still part of the Protestant denomination I grew up in, but she is fascinated by ghosts and demonology. Watches those ghost shows on TV and reads a lot of books on the subject. I don’t think she fully understands the danger in consulting with psychic mediums and trying to contact the dead like they do on TV. I’m also worried that she might lose her faith because her church is almost completely silent about this stuff so she doesn’t have any spiritual guidance in this area. I think she has enough sense not to go “ghost hunting” herself though; she’s heard too many stories about how that ends badly. One of her favorite demonologists (I’m not sure if that’s the proper term in this case) is actually the pastor of a Catholic parish a few towns away. I’m thinking of taking her to visit his church or even trying to meet him; maybe he can give us both some spiritual guidance.
I worry about my sister though. She’s still part of the Protestant denomination I grew up in, but she is fascinated by ghosts and demonology. Watches those ghost shows on TV and reads a lot of books on the subject. I don’t think she fully understands the danger in consulting with psychic mediums and trying to contact the dead like they do on TV. I’m also worried that she might lose her faith because her church is almost completely silent about this stuff so she doesn’t have any spiritual guidance in this area. I think she has enough sense not to go “ghost hunting” herself though; she’s heard too many stories about how that ends badly. One of her favorite demonologists (I’m not sure if that’s the proper term in this case) is actually the pastor of a Catholic parish a few towns away. I’m thinking of taking her to visit his church or even trying to meet him; maybe he can give us both some spiritual guidance.
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