Possibility of "Extraordinary" or "Traditional" Rite in the Future?

[JaMc]

With the Motu Proprio and the recent step forward toward reconciliation with the SSPX, I can’t help but wonder if we are moving toward the creation of a new “rite” within the Church of adherents to the Latin Mass, a-la the Eastern Rite churches.

While I know the Motu Proprio specifically states that they are two forms of the same rite, with entire chapels devoted exclusively to the TLM, and with orders of priests specifically dedicated to the TLM, does anyone think it is possible that, especially if the SSPX becomes fully reconciled with Rome, we may see a “Traditional” or “Extraordinary” Rite (for lack of a better term, with the “Latin Rite” moniker already taken) come about?

 

[tee_eff_em]

How would such a supposed rite differ from the Latin Rite?

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[CapIV]

I like a hundred years, I think the new and old Mass formulas will be combined to one form required of all priests.

 

[JuanCarlos]

The problem is Traditionalists (most) want restoration- restore the Latin Rite to the TLM. To turn them into a separate Rite would make this goal impossible.

 

[Formosus]

With the Motu Proprio and the recent step forward toward reconciliation with the SSPX, I can’t help but wonder if we are moving toward the creation of a new “rite” within the Church of adherents to the Latin Mass, a-la the** Eastern Rite churches.**

Eastern Churches are historical self governing churches from ancient times or are daughter churches of those ancient churches (such as the Ukrainian church’s relationship with Constantinople). The SSPX is a group of priests and four Bishops who willingly ignore the authority of their Latin Patriarch. The two situations are no where near equivalent.

 

[white_sheep]

The Church is not in the habit of creating rites. If the Anglicans only get a “Use” which is a slightly different liturgy but are still part of the Latin rite, there is no way the SSPX who use the Latin liturgy will ever be put into a unique rite. To think so is to misunderstand what a rite is. They would be an order, and it would probably be in many ways similar to the FSSP.

 

[BayernAnhaenger]

With the Motu Proprio and the recent step forward toward reconciliation with the SSPX, I can’t help but wonder if we are moving toward the creation of a new “rite” within the Church of adherents to the Latin Mass, a-la the Eastern Rite churches.

While I know the Motu Proprio specifically states that they are two forms of the same rite, with entire chapels devoted exclusively to the TLM, and with orders of priests specifically dedicated to the TLM, does anyone think it is possible that, especially if the SSPX becomes fully reconciled with Rome, we may see a “Traditional” or “Extraordinary” Rite (for lack of a better term, with the “Latin Rite” moniker already taken) come about?

I foresee the possibility of the Novus Ordo being suppressed. Or, at least it’s multiple options removed, and brought more into line with the reforms CALLED for by the Second Vatican Council.

That said, I don’t really care what happens to the Novus Ordo, so long as I have access to the Mass of the Ages.

 

[JaMc]

I foresee the possibility of the Novus Ordo being suppressed. Or, at least it’s multiple options removed, and brought more into line with the reforms CALLED for by the Second Vatican Council.

That said, I don’t really care what happens to the Novus Ordo, so long as I have access to the Mass of the Ages.

I think, if anything happens to the Novus Ordo, it would be more toward the latter, i.e., less options, closer to the original intent of Vatican II, rather than being supressed outright. As such, while it may be a dream/goal of traditionalists to have the Latin Rite return to the Latin Mass, realistically, I do not think that it will happen.

Given the friction over Vatican II, I was thinking maybe greater autonomy, in the manner of the Eastern Rites, may be a possibility - then, I suppose, the dispute would be over which would be entitled to be called the “Latin Rite.”

Then again, maybe not. It’s something that I’ve been thinking about for some time, so I thought it would be worth discussion.

 

[weepixie71]

i am thinking that the best way to keep peace with PPX is to give them their own order like, the institute of Christ the King, Opus Dei, FSSP. i can not see it working any other way.
this way the tridentine and the novus ordo will not be effected.

 

[malphono]

i am thinking that the best way to keep peace with PPX is to give them their own order like, the institute of Christ the King, Opus Dei, FSSP. i can not see it working any other way.
this way the tridentine and the novus ordo will not be effected.

By “PPX” do you mean the SSPX? If so, they were originally constituted as a religious fraternity of “pontifical right.” (The Latin initials are, I believe, FSSPX.) If they are eventually regularized, they will surely be recognized as such again.

If that’s not where you were going, please clarify.