Yes, humble and prudent and out of respect for Our Lord we do NOT contracept, just as the Church has taught us.
Am I understanding this correctly? Because it is how everyone else does it, then that is the authority? There is no directive that one must stand let alone that one must kneel. Well it is not how ***everyone ***does it.
Sounds as if you have talked to your bishop. Is that the case with you? Others who choose to kneel also? If that is the case, that would change things. It would no longer be I want to do things my way no matter what the GIRM states, I think my way is better. Then it becomes I truly wish to do it this way may I still do so? One is defiant of church authority and placing yourself above it, the other is asking and placing yourself under it.
If May 5th is Ascension Thursday or a Sunday then yes I would attend as I would a HDO. I try to got o Mass daily. Other than, May 5th being my sister-in-law’s wedding anniversary and Cinco de Mayo, how is it a HDO
It is the Ascension of the Lord. Sorry. Forgot to include that! And while it is a Holy Day of Obligation, it has been transferred to Sunday for all U.S. except for Boston, Hartford, New York, Newark, Philadelphia, Washington, Atlanta, and the State of Nebraska.
As my bishop is subject to the liturgical laws of the Latin Church, promulgated* and authentically interpreted* by the Congregation for Divine Worship, to who the Holy Father has delegated his authority in these matters, you would concede that I may kneel to receive Holy Communion in the United States?
Does that sound like Ut Unum Sint (We all may be One) to you?
At a Latin Mass, yes.
Even at the normative Mass when celebrated in Latin; or are you referring exclusively to the T.L.M.?
Fine, but keeping in mind that if you choose (hopefully not out of pride!) not to conform to the norm it should be understood that you are not being disobedient, nor should you be imposed upon, per the instructions of the Congregation for Divine Worship.
If a Mass were celebrated in Latin, I would think there would be provisions for kneeling. This is really up to the celebrant with the permission of the Pastor, who acts with the knowledge of the Bishop.
Yes, but you are to be instructed in the norm, and hopefull will comply the next time. That letter was never meant to be amunition for someone to flaunt their will over their Shepherd.I think this was a situation where an equitable solution was very difficult. The Vatican did give the Bishops control, and did approve the norm. When someone complained, a letter was issued. The norm was never changed. In a spirit of respect, people should not kneel, if there are no provisions–they are putting their will over that of the Bishop. It is not reverent to kneel on the floor, in the middle of a standing procession.
This is your opinion, to which you are certainly entitled. Or can this be substantiated from another source?
I’m unclear about this. I agree that I must obey my bishop in all things lawful; however, I am told by the C.D.W. that I am not being disobedient if I choose not to observe the norm. May I not act according to my will insofar as I am neither sinning not acting disobediently? To what extent must I conform my will to that of my bishop?
Again, this is simply your opinion. You may be correct, but you cannot claim the authority of the Church in this.
Well, S. Francis (amongst many other saints) was hardly practical in many ways, so I would take that as a compliment. I would not wish to be inconsiderate to anyone, however, and, if this situation were an issue for me, I would gladly sit at the very back of the church and receive last, much as Negroes were once forced to sit at the backs of buses.
Kneeling on the floor, in the middle of a standing procession.
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Ah, so you do see that it is the better choice
In fact, I do not see how the statements are in any way related. Please clarify.
How is it misleading and how is it manipulative? Out of consideration for those who would be troubled or inconvenienced by my kneeling in the communion procession, I am willing to sit at the back and receive last. My point is that, despite how we are viewed by others, we can accommodate their desires, and still do what we feel we need to do. In my example, despite having to sit at the back of the bus; Negroes still got from point A to point B; despite having to receive Holy Communion last, I would still be receiving Holy Communion.
No, I do not. When I am present at a Mass where standing is the accepted practice for receiving Holy Communion, I simply do not receive. This is a fairly rare occurrence.
Exactly. Obedience is not rejecting the authentic interpretation of the Vatican.
pgoings said:
And you think THIS is the best choice?? to refuse your Lord because you can’t have it your way??? I will pray for you.