All your criteria is based on your projection onto people you do not agree with; it is a pergorative. A pergorative you used against everyone who disagrees with you. You don’t know any of us but because we disagree with you, you assume contempt, or hatred, or prejudice, or antipathy, or inherent superiority.
The Catholic Church has very good reasons for knowing that same-sex unions are not marriage. The reasons are much better than anything I’ve heard from the same-sex unions can be marriage side.
Marriage and the States definition are not necessarily the same thing
Feel free to mention this to Elizabeth502, who tried citing the State’s definition of marriage as something that strengthens her argument about what marriage is. Forgetting, evidently, that some localities actually do allow for gay marriage, and all localities allow it for impotent couples and couples who don’t want children.
And if you would own the fact that you hold negative attitudes about gay people, my calling you a homophobe would no longer be a pejorative, even if I did want it to be. Just like calling me a “homosexualist” has no pejorative force, because I don’t allow it to.
Where did she cite the State’s definition of marriage as something that strengthens her argument? It is my experience that is the same-sex union is marriage crowd that hangs their hat on a State definition; like I said they don’t have one of their own.
I don’t hold negative attitudes about homosexual people. All you have to go on is the fact you disagree with my definition of marriage. Therefore, it is a perjorative.
I found it very interesting. Here is the start:That is interesting. Do you have that link? I would like to see that!
What you didn’t notice was the absolute shocker that a command to purchase a thing in the market, enforced by government power, is now a “Tax”. That’s pretty willy and nilly.
No criticism but I have only seen “Homosexualist” of CAF and that fairly rarely.
There is a big difference between holding a negative attitude about homosexuals as human beings, and holding a negative attitude about militant homosexuals and their cheerleaders trying to force everyone else to pretend that their sexual practices are normal and equal to the life giving sexual act between a man and a woman. And their whole push for “marriage” comes down to just that.
Prophets of Gloom!!! The world is not all that evil good sir. There is good in people you know? Yes even in gay people too. We are not called to be crusaders but witnesses to God’s love to the world.
Giants doesn’t seems to understand what it takes to “own” a pergorative. To “own” it requires that it be true. If someone calls me a Papist, I can “own” it because it is true, I am Catholic.
And the Holy Sacrament of Marriage- what of that? Is it only a Holy Sacrament in the Catholic Church, or universally?
Not universally, since there is no “Holy Sacrament of Marriage” in California law. There is only “marriage” in California law. The California version is already different because it allows for divorce and remarriage, which the “Holy Sacrament of Marriage” does not. What is being decided is whether or not another difference will be added between the two.
The question was directed to a Roman Catholic. But thanks for sharing!
None of these arguments work towards allowing gay marriage to pass. As Catholics we don’t want to force any behavior on anybody. We wish that people follow God’s will out of the free choice of their own will.
agreed
This is missing the point. The further that legal marriage goes from Holy marriage, it is the same as when all law distances itself from God’s law: the further law abiding citizens will be held to be holy. The only profound and lasting goodness comes from holiness. It is not just an option which is open to religious people, all people regardless of faith need this goodness.
And the localites which do “allow” it are dangerously corrupting the structure of society and opposing the natural law principles which are the underpinnings of criminal, civil, and constitutional law. As to impotence, that’s been covered in other threads. Try using the search feature. It’s a wonderful antidote to laziness.
