Tis_Bearself
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One is not free to ignore the judgment of the courts just because you personally think it’s “bogus”. Such judgments make up part of the governing state and federal law.
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exnihilo
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You aren’t free to in terms of the court can order police to jail you. But one should absolutely ignore bad court decisions in as much as you can. An unjust law is no law.
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JackMcCoy
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Our fans were respectable, but intensely zealot.
And our guys posted a 2-0 victory. Well played game by both teams.
And our guys posted a 2-0 victory. Well played game by both teams.
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YourNameHere
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I disagree. We need a mix of public schools and church-affiliated schools. It has worked well for our country for many, many years. Why change a system that has done well for us?
All problems that schools have, both public and private, are mostly money-based. These problems can be addressed.
At a time when politicians want to cut funding for public education, we should be pouring more money into education.
School teachers should be given a raise in salary and the resources they need to educate our young men and young women.
All problems that schools have, both public and private, are mostly money-based. These problems can be addressed.
At a time when politicians want to cut funding for public education, we should be pouring more money into education.
School teachers should be given a raise in salary and the resources they need to educate our young men and young women.
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JanetF
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Uh, no. The US is a secular nation with laws based on Judeo-Christian values. You do not have to be Christian to live in the US.The US is a Christian nation. But the real solution is to get rid of government schools altogether. Then people can send their kids to the religious or non religious school of their choice.
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YourNameHere
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If you read the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, Congress is prevented from making any laws respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise of religion.
In other words, the government cannot make a law establishing an official religion, nor can it keep people from practicing their religious faith.
We are not a Christian national. We are a national free to exercise the religion of our choice, be it Christian or otherwise.
As a Christian, I exercise my choice to worship as a Christian, but I respect the rights of those who do not believe as I do.
In other words, the government cannot make a law establishing an official religion, nor can it keep people from practicing their religious faith.
We are not a Christian national. We are a national free to exercise the religion of our choice, be it Christian or otherwise.
As a Christian, I exercise my choice to worship as a Christian, but I respect the rights of those who do not believe as I do.
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exnihilo
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I don’t think government schools have worked well. You now have to get a college education to have the equivalent to a high school education years ago. Many kids graduate without being able to even read. Also, money isn’t a problem. Government schools are very well funded. What they do with the money is the problem.
No, you don’t have to be a Christian, but the government and the people were Christian. My state had a state church and religious tests for office. Lots of other states did as well. Even then you didn’t have to be a Christian to live here, but it was a Christian State.Uh, no. The US is a secular nation with laws based on Judeo-Christian values. You do not have to be Christian to live in the US.
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laylow
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I was referring to @exnihilo, who claimed the US was a Christian nation.If you read the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, Congress is prevented from making any laws respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise of religion.
In other words, the government cannot make a law establishing an official religion, nor can it keep people from practicing their religious faith.
We are not a Christian national. We are a national free to exercise the religion of our choice, be it Christian or otherwise.
As a Christian, I exercise my choice to worship as a Christian, but I respect the rights of those who do not believe as I do.
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laylow
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Many were deists. And some only that far, because they wouldn’t reach their position if they claimed to be an atheist.No, you don’t have to be a Christian, but the government and the people were Christian.
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exnihilo
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You are talking about the federal government. I agree many were deists or really Freemasons. But again, the states were entirely different politically and each had their own culture and tradition. If you focus only on the second federal government of the US you can arrive at your conclusion.
But that isn’t a proper analysis of history.
But that isn’t a proper analysis of history.
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laylow
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The Federal government trumps local.You are talking about the federal government. I agree many were deists or really Freemasons. But again, the states were entirely different politically and each had their own culture and tradition. If you focus only on the second federal government of the US you can arrive at your conclusion.
But that isn’t a proper analysis of history.
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Axsenex
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We didn’t do that in my time at Deaf school but we used to do it during breakfast, lunch & supper then it stopped in the early 90s. Personally I don’t care who prays for whatever reason or if they don’t want to do it at all.
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exnihilo
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Only where it has sovereignty. Again, many US states, even after the new federal constitution, had state religions and religious tests. The first amendment prohibited a national state church or congressional laws regarding religion. That is all.
It is true that later on the federal courts made up the idea that states can’t have state religions, prayers, or religious tests. But that is obviously made up as it contradicts history and tradition.
It is true that later on the federal courts made up the idea that states can’t have state religions, prayers, or religious tests. But that is obviously made up as it contradicts history and tradition.
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laylow
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And how does that prove that the US is a Christian nation again?Only where it has sovereignty. Again, many US states, even after the new federal constitution, had state religions and religious tests. The first amendment prohibited a national state church or congressional laws regarding religion. That is all.
It is true that later on the federal courts made up the idea that states can’t have state religions, prayers, or religious tests. But that is obviously made up as it contradicts history and tradition.
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YourNameHere
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Are you making things up as you go? I know of no high school graduates in my area who cannot read. That is not to say that there are none. But you are making a broad statement criticizing public education without any actual evidence other than saying that “many kids graduate without being able to read.”
Well funded? I know of NO public schools that are not hurting for money?
Most of the private schools in my area also are constantly putting on fundraisers to make financial ends meet.
Again, I think you may be making things up when you say, “government schools are well funded.”
You can slice baloney thin or thick, but it is still baloney.
Well funded? I know of NO public schools that are not hurting for money?
Most of the private schools in my area also are constantly putting on fundraisers to make financial ends meet.
Again, I think you may be making things up when you say, “government schools are well funded.”
You can slice baloney thin or thick, but it is still baloney.
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YourNameHere
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Trying reading the U.S. Constitution. It is the supreme law of the land.
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exnihilo
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How else would you prove it? The people were overwhelmingly Christian. Christianity permeated the culture. Christianity was the state religion.And how does that prove that the US is a Christian nation again?
Then you need to research the subject more.Are you making things up as you go? I know of no high school graduates in my area who cannot read. That is not to say that there are none. But you are making a broad statement criticizing public education without any actual evidence other than saying that “many kids graduate without being able to read.”
I know of rich people hurting for money too. It isn’t that they don’t have a lot of money they just spend more than they have. Public schools are very well funded. Maybe you need to research how much money government schools get. My local government schools get over $10,000 a student. That is what I’d call very well funded.Well funded? I know of NO public schools that are not hurting for money?
I don’t think you’ve read it or understood. Read the 10th amendment and then read history.Trying reading the U.S. Constitution. It is the supreme law of the land.
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laylow
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STATE, not nation. It order for it to apply to the ENTIRE nation, it must be declared Federally.How else would you prove it? The people were overwhelmingly Christian. Christianity permeated the culture. Christianity was the state religion.
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exnihilo
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That doesn’t make sense. If most of the parts are something we can safely say something about the whole. Regardless, just using the actual religion of people then and now we can say the US is a Christian nation. I mean it clearly isn’t a Buddhist nation.
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laylow
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Of course not, it’s not a theocracy.That doesn’t make sense. If most of the parts are something we can safely say something about the whole. Regardless, just using the actual religion of people then and now we can say the US is a Christian nation. I mean it clearly isn’t a Buddhist nation.
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